[talk-au] Military range area error - Cultana
Mateusz Konieczny
matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Sun Feb 7 09:45:40 UTC 2021
"data set is Creative Commons Attribution" which one?
See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Creative_Commons#Importing_creative_commons_licenced_data_into_OpenStreetMap
Feb 7, 2021, 10:32 by bob3bob3 at skymesh.com.au:
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> Hi Graeme
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> Okay its coming back to me now.... (15 years ago - RF coverage and land cover type shp's)
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> Noted that the data set is Creative Commons Attribution. That also includes shp, geojson and like downloads. I would assume that the CTA data would be within the 98MByte odd "Generalised Land Use 2019" download. After some zooming and clicking on the web page though it seems the original and CEA are already covered as a few "PUB_INSTITUTION" shapes east and west of the Iron Knob - Whyalla road and the CTA is actually a subset of the eastern section. The complete shape roughly fits a "future planning" graphic that I saw.
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> Do you agree? Is it good enough to use for OSM? I note that the area around the Woomera range is not PUB_INSTITUTION though.
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> Assuming this shape download is valid, is uploading (the same) shp/geojson to OSM a common thing? I note that the wiki has dire warnings about it. I also see that the ID editor I use doesn't support this and JOSM etc should be used. It might be smart if someone more experienced than I did this!
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> Tnx for the resource pointer!
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> Cheers Bob
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> On 7/2/21 10:57 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
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>> G'day Bob
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>> Here's a map (that we have the OK to use!) for CTA itself:
>> http://location.sa.gov.au/viewer/?map=topographic&x=137.82583&y=-32.77486&z=11&uids=118&pinx=137.742790&piny=-32.901330&pinTitle=Location&pinText=Cultana,+Hmsd
>> but it doesn't show anything for the Expansion?
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>> I've spotted a few that show CEA as well, but can't find any that we have a waiver for - may need to approach somebody for a waiver?
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>> As for military areas generally, I've just successfully put through the proposal to map military bases:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:military%3Dbase>> , if that's on any help to you?
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>> Training / range / danger areas are also on the list to be discussed!
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>> Thanks
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>> Graeme
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>> On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 at 20:26, Bob Cameron <>> bob3bob3 at skymesh.com.au>> > wrote:
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>>> This is (mainly) about the very large military area in SA roughly
>>> between Iron Knob, Pt Augusta and Whyalla.
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>>> Currently only a portion of the Cultana Expansion area is indicated on
>>> OSM. There was it seems an increase in size from 2014 onwards. The
>>> original Cultana Training Area (that seems to go down to the western
>>> shore of Spencer Gulf) is also missing.
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>>> I have seen various web references, but nothing accurate enough so far
>>> to place a shape.
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>>> Would someone please point me at a data source we can use? Is anyone
>>> else looking at this or military areas generally?
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>>> Tnx
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