[talk-au] Distinction between roadside rest and stopping area..

[Warin]

Parks tend to be operated by local councils.
NSW Rest Areas and probably other states/teritories tend to be operated 
by the main roads people (RMS NSW).

NSW Rest Areas are shown as such on the DCS Base Map, you do have to 
zoom in.

Note that at least some NSW Rest Areas do not allow long stays e.g. more 
than 4 hours - specifically camping. See 
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/roads/using-roads/rest-area-parking-restrictions-trial-faq.pdf 
This comes from several sources - local commercial campsites loosing 
business, littering, bad behavior. An excuse is that the driver found 
themselves so fatigued they had to stop and rest .. and slept, should 
'work' for an overnight.



On 11/1/21 9:49 pm, Little Maps wrote:
> Hi Bob, I haven’t mapped these but roadside rest areas in the NSW 
> Riverina (and presumably elsewhere) have been mapped in many different 
> ways, so I’m curious to hear people’s feedback. For example,
>
> Some in regional towns have been mapped as leisure=park, name = XXX 
> Rest Area, with toilets etc mapped separately, e.g.
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294143613#map=18/-36.04168/146.95065
>
> Sometimes the park has been mapped as an area using leisure=park, and 
> a point has been added with tourism=camp_site, name = XXX Rest Area, 
> as here:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1811186234#map=19/-35.65033/145.57339
>
> Sometimes tourism=camp_site, name = XXX Rest Area, has been added as a 
> point beside a service road,
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/316588165#map=17/-35.06066/147.05516
>
> And sometimes both highway=rest_area and tourism=camp_site have both 
> been added at the same place, as here:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2420391844
>
> So, in practice, tourism=camp_site seems to be used to identify areas 
> where camping is allowed.
>
> Many rest areas that allow camping in this region are right beside the 
> highway, not far from it, and I haven’t seen any distinction between 
> ‘stop over places’ and ‘rest areas’ as such.  Cheers Ian
>
>
>> On 11 Jan 2021, at 2:48 pm, Bob Cameron <bob3bob3 at skymesh.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Rest areas are generally where one stops for a while, possibly 
>> overnight. Often has bins and is some distance off the road it services.
>>
>> Stopping areas are for a brief check of the vehicle, make phone call 
>> etc and are usually just 1-2 lane widths of paved surface just off 
>> the road.
>>
>> Are these both rest areas? I'd like some guidance on how to 
>> distinguish between them if important.
>>
>> Tnx
>>
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