[talk-au] Distinction between roadside rest and stopping area..

[Andrew Hughes]

Hi Andrew,

I also feel highway=rest_area is correct, but what about the use/inclusion
of  ammenity=parking?

I also believe that hgv=dedicated is correct, but so too would be using
capacity...

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:capacity

capacity:car=no
capacity:hgv=32  or  capacity:hgv=yes (if you don't know how many parking
bay's there are and many are just a gravel lot)

I will be quite interested in mapping (and documenting this as a
convention) this in the future within the NHVR.

This thread may now be off track from the originating question, I am happy
to park the heavy vehicle discussion here (pun intended).

Cheers,
A Hughes





On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 08:42, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 09:26, Andrew Hughes <ahhughes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> In addition to your comment about trucks Warin. There are many rest areas
>> that are for trucks only. I believe there are tags for this so I assume
>> you're not tagging them for the trucking industry just light vehicle rest
>> areas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> A Hughes.
>>
>> FWIW: Truck rest areas are quite a contentious issue because truck
>> drivers have legal limits on drive time to manage fatigue and the rest area
>> stops are baked into their journey before they set off. They're
>> understandably none too happy when they get to a rest area that should be
>> dedicated to them for some shut eye only to find it full of caravans or to
>> have caravans making noise (esp. Generators) which doesn't allow them to
>> get the sleep they need. Consequently, its would be good to have a
>> distinction in the data or intentially avoid adding the truck rest areas if
>> all you wanted was light  vehicles. :)
>>
>
> I would still class these as highway=rest_area based on them meeting the
> criteria of "A rest area is place along a road, usually a motorway or
> dual-carriageway, where a driver can stop to have a rest."
>
> If signposted for truck drivers, then I'd add hgv=designated per access
> tagging https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access and if other
> vehicle users can't access them then tag those as no (I prefer not to use
> access=no + hgv=designated, but in this case it might be best to exclude
> all other users apart from hgv).
>
> Does this sound workable?
>
>
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