[talk-au] Lifeguards & "Swim Between the Flags"

[Andrew Harvey]

Isn't it always the case though that patrolled beaches will have flags and
that is the area patrolled? My point is then what's the difference between
`lifeguard=yes` and `lifeguard=yes @ flagged_area / red_and_yellow_flags`,
to me they mean the same thing.

On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 18:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> That's it!
>
> Today the flags are here, tomorrow they may be 100m South, then the next
> day they're 100m North of here, but the flags will always show where the
> lifeguards are at any time.
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 16:11, Adam Horan <ahoran at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I see.
>>
>> The lifeguards are where the flags are.
>> The flags are somewhere on this beach.
>> There'll be flags/lifeguards at certain times.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 17:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agree entirely but I'm not trying to map the flags, I was trying to work
>>> out a way of saying that the lifeguards are where the flags are?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Graeme
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 15:49, Adam Horan <ahoran at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Flag position will vary daily based on weather conditions, tides, rips,
>>>> proximity to the toilets, other stuff?
>>>>
>>>> I think you'd just need to mark the whole beach.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 15:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks everybody!
>>>>>
>>>>> In response to a couple of points ...
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I'm not trying to mark that the lifeguards are "in this spot", I
>>>>> just thought that some way of indicating where on the beach (i.e the flags)
>>>>> they would be would be good.
>>>>>
>>>>> & yes, we're all taught to swim between the flags, but is that
>>>>> standard teaching everywhere?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Graeme
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 12:26, Simon Slater <pyevet at iinet.net.au>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 20 October 2021 9:54:22 AM AEDT Graeme Fitzpatrick
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > A little while back, I put the emergency=lifeguard proposal through,
>>>>>> > together with lifeguard=yes to describe those times when there is a
>>>>>> > lifeguard/s on the beach, but they may not be in a fixed location.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> > Or do we just not worry about it, & work on the idea that =yes is
>>>>>> > sufficient?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> When I were a lad, we were taught to always look for the flags when
>>>>>> going to
>>>>>> any beach to swim, teaching personal responsibility and obey the
>>>>>> flags because
>>>>>> the lifesavers know that beach better.  Therefore, actual flag
>>>>>> positions need
>>>>>> to be known as variable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, tagging a beach that does have a SLSC is good because those
>>>>>> unfamiliar with the area, tourists say, or families with young
>>>>>> children, can
>>>>>> then preferentially choose such beaches.  Similarly, the more
>>>>>> adventurous, or
>>>>>> those desiring solitude, can preferentially choose alternate
>>>>>> locations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Simon Slater
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Registered Linux User #463789 @ http://linuxcounter.net
>>>>>>
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