[talk-au] Service road highway areas as frontage road access

[Kim Oldfield]

I've updated the intersection to a similar layout to that suggested by 
Thorsten.

I have a passing familiarity with the area.

It looks like Ewan has just suggested a similar layout.

While making that edit I noticed Burwood Highway is tagged with 
foot=yes. My first response was that's wrong as walking down a highway 
would be dangerous (and illegal?). But then, foot=yes can imply a 
footpath which is safe to use, but then the highway would be better 
tagged with footway=sidewalk or sidewalk=left, though on the south side 
of Burwood highway it would be better to tag the service lane, and not 
the main highway. The next step is to map individual footpaths. I 
decided to avoid that rabbit warren, and left foot=yes on the highway 
for now.

On 23/10/21 5:18 pm, osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au wrote:
>
> Looking on mapillary, it seems you can also enter there, so the 
> current mapping is wrong.
>
> Also, I can’t see any legal reason, besides it being dangerous if 
> there is traffic, to cross all the way from the parking lot at the top 
> to that Burnwood Highway Service Road at the bottom, or the other way 
> around.
>
> I’m not going to actually touch it, as it’s way outside my usual 
> mapping area, but personally I would map it like this:
>
> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558999688670609448/901351143542784050/unknown.png 
> <https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558999688670609448/901351143542784050/unknown.png>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thorsten
>
> *From:*Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:23
> *To:* Dian Ågesson <me at diacritic.xyz>
> *Cc:* OSM-Au <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Service road highway areas as frontage road 
> access
>
>
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 13:54, Dian Ågesson <me at diacritic.xyz 
> <mailto:me at diacritic.xyz>> wrote:
>
>     On the most recent edit, a highway=service area has been
>     introduced for a roadway between a main road, a frontage road and
>     a side street
>
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/995553123
>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/995553123>
>
>     I have not seen this before, and it doesn’t strike me as correct.
>
> No, I would agree that it is not correct, & there's no real need for 
> it to be there.
>
> From looking at what's already mapped, it would appear to be OK, with 
> one possible exception?
>
> Can traffic from the Hwy enter the service road at the Rose St 
> intersection, or is it one-way outwards only?
>
> If it's two-way, then Rose St should be broken, & the section between 
> the service road & the Hwy made two-way. At the same time, you could 
> also move it to the middle of the intersection, but that's only my OCD 
> neatness coming out! :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
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