[talk-au] Service road highway areas as frontage road access

Ewen Hill ewen.hill at gmail.com
Sun Oct 24 01:59:14 UTC 2021


Hi Dian,
   I know the area well and this is my Mapillary
<https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=912845149571145&focus=photo&lat=-37.893471866062&lng=145.31094951001&z=17&x=NaN&y=NaN&zoom=0>showing
access to the shops in the service road. Rose Street is very narrow and
appears to have had a bit of a makeover at that intersection during
clockdown. I don't think there are any signs stating you can't go all the
way north to the railway station carpark or east bound on Burwood Hwy but
very few would and would be slower and more dangerous than using the
traffic lights just to the west. I believe a straight bi-directional route
Rose street to the carpark entrance would do the trick and take the service
area out the back to be humanely put down as Thorsten suggests.


Ewen

On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 17:22, <osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au> wrote:

> Looking on mapillary, it seems you can also enter there, so the current
> mapping is wrong.
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> Also, I can’t see any legal reason, besides it being dangerous if there is
> traffic, to cross all the way from the parking lot at the top to that
> Burnwood Highway Service Road at the bottom, or the other way around.
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> I’m not going to actually touch it, as it’s way outside my usual mapping
> area, but personally I would map it like this:
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> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558999688670609448/901351143542784050/unknown.png
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> Cheers,
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> Thorsten
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> *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 October 2021 14:23
> *To:* Dian Ågesson <me at diacritic.xyz>
> *Cc:* OSM-Au <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Service road highway areas as frontage road
> access
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> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 13:54, Dian Ågesson <me at diacritic.xyz> wrote:
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> On the most recent edit, a highway=service area has been introduced for a
> roadway between a main road, a frontage road and a side street
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/995553123
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> I have not seen this before, and it doesn’t strike me as correct.
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> No, I would agree that it is not correct, & there's no real need for it to
> be there.
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> From looking at what's already mapped, it would appear to be OK, with one
> possible exception?
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> Can traffic from the Hwy enter the service road at the Rose St
> intersection, or is it one-way outwards only?
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> If it's two-way, then Rose St should be broken, & the section between the
> service road & the Hwy made two-way. At the same time, you could also move
> it to the middle of the intersection, but that's only my OCD neatness
> coming out! :-)
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> Thanks
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> Graeme
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Warm Regards

Ewen Hill
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