[OSM-talk-be] additional Cycle node networks in Namur & Luxembourg

[A.Pirard.Papou]

On 2012-12-15 13:03, Jo wrote :

(And thanks for writing that letter, your French is quite good!)
> Hi EeBie,
>
> That's great news! Unfortunately we can't use their map or the GPX 
> files from their web site without their explicit permission. I'll try 
> to whip up a message in French to ask for that permission, but usually 
> the answer to such requests is nyet. Meaning we'll have to go and 
> survey it ourselves or with help of gpx files recorded by people 
> who'll go out and ride them. The advantage of doing it ourselves is 
> that it's possible to make a lot more pictures and notes and improve 
> the rest of the data around there at the same time.

The copyright information must be written inside the metadata, obtained 
with a WMS Getcapabilities 
<http://schemas.opengis.net/wms/1.1.1/capabilities_1_1_1.xml> request to 
or extracted from  the GPX XML file according the GPX schema (1.1) 
<http://www.topografix.com/gpx/1/1/gpx.xsd>. (just like finding the © 
written in a book or on a record dispenses everybody to inquire)
But does a © on a map forbid photocopying the map or learning the route 
by heart and map it?

You can also consider listing *Les itinéraires touristiques balisés* 
<http://cgt.tourismewallonie.be/default.aspx?pg=9e9d7134-fa22-4015-b8d7-768eef2544f2>  
(legally official site)  for Wallonie.
Several communes consider that the routes are both cycling and biking.
I have mapped routes in the commune Sprimont and Theux 
<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=13&lat=50.51982&lon=5.71373>  with 
the official IDs.  SP3 and most of TE is missing. I e-mailed both adms 
but I've got no reply. Someone made something similar in Tillf 
<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=14&lat=50.56067&lon=5.58773>, but 
I don't see any official IDs for Tilff.

I would have liked to add node numbers, but I could not find on the 
Belgian OSM wiki how they're assigned.  How van I do that?

I made a cycle route here 
<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=14&lat=50.5256&lon=5.7969>.  
Completely unofficial and off the top of my head. I chose it because 
it's almost flat in a very hilly region, but I do not know how to show 
that on the map.  How could I?
I'd love to draw more if someone around got interested or ever replied 
to my e-mails.
Sprimont do not seem to officially list anything bike specific.
Should I be inventive and made unofficial routes?
I'm almost sure some kids nearby would help me.

We should request OSM to add Waymart map layers 
<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=13&lat=50.51982&lon=5.71373> 
to their site, they're simply great.
Could we suggest firms that use GoogleMaps to use OpenStreetMap instead 
and to help them adding to OSM what they need?

<http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=14&lat=50.5256&lon=5.7969>Please 
do not change what I mapped, but suggest anything you want.

Cordialement,

André.


> I hope you don't mind I'm going to change your nodes a bit.
>
> For one the nodes don't need network=rcn or bicycle=yes. It's enough 
> if they have an rcn_ref tag. This is to avoid having to put 
> network=rcn;rwn for nodes that are common between walking and cycling 
> networks.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jo
>
> Op 15 december 2012 01:43 schreef EeBie <ebe050 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:ebe050 at gmail.com>> het volgende:
>
>     Jo,
>
>
>     You can add a new cycle network to the list.
>     Since this year there is a cycle node network in Namur and
>     Luxembourg: Famenne-à-Vélo.
>     See http://www.famenne-a-velo.be/
>     <http://www.famenne-a-velo.be/>They speak about 350 km in total.
>
>     I encountered a few node signs while hiking in the region and
>     tagged 3 of them and one route (154-155) in the neighborhood of
>     Wavreille map
>     <http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.12596&lon=5.24383&zoom=16&layers=M>
>     .
>
>     The website offers the possibility to download GPX files of the
>     routes. I don’t have any idea if it is permitted to use those to
>     add the route to OSM.
>
>     The application is developed by Geolives. That company writes that
>     they can also make applications based on OSM. (the website for
>     Famenne-à-Vélo uses Google maps).
>
>     The reference list of Geolives shows also several (walking) routes
>     in Wallonie.
>
>
>     Erik
>

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