[Talk-ca] Fwd: canvec2osm sample area tofino BC _with roads

Thu Apr 2 01:27:29 BST 2009

Yes, the ways are not connected if you mean, like tooth-picks.  All geobase
ways are like that.  .... (erm... and canvec roads :) )
Here's my stance on this issue.

Our plan is to make the most detailed and technically accurate map of the
world.
Until individuals actually place GPS tracks, knowone will no for certain if
these roads exist.  And these roads always need to be updated.

If you happen to be on that road, you will notice powerlines, and telephone
cables & stop signs. .. and fences... and property lines (not visable,
but noticeable if you get noticed as tresspassing). .. also usually there
are physical stakes in the ground to mark property boundries, (so i dont
know what im talking about) :-)

So overall,  the next stage is to be showing all these details.

As far as rendering, we can teach the renderer.  Did you notice that one of
the tags are ..

#L_HNUMF,N,10,0
#Name First house number left
#Definition The first house number address value along a particular side
(left or right)
line,L_HNUMF,,canvec:L_HNUMF,-
line,L_HNUMF,,addr:housenumber:first:left,-
#
#
#L_HNUML,N,10,0
#Name Last house number left
#Definition The last house number address value along a particular side
(left or right) of a Road element. A specific value is defined for the left
and right sides of the Road element.
line,L_HNUML,,canvec:L_HNUML,-
line,L_HNUML,,addr:housenumber:last:left,-
#

#R_HNUMF,N,10,0
#Name First house number right
#Definition The first house number address value along a particular side
(left or right) of a Road element. A specific value is defined for the left
and right sides of the Road element.
line,R_HNUMF,,canvec:R_HNUMF,-
line,R_HNUMF,,addr:housenumber:first:right,-
#
#
#R_HNUML,N,10,0
#Name Last house number right
#Definition The last house number address value along a particular side
(left or right) of a Road element. A specific value is defined for the left
and right sides of the Road element.
line,R_HNUML,,canvec:R_HNUML,-
line,R_HNUML,,addr:housenumber:last:right,-
#

So we have the listings of the house numbers. :-) (at least in the provinces
who contributed to the club)

Im right now fixing the script and will make another test area once the wiki
chart is complete.

This is NOT offset, like we previously discussed, but its does help, as all
the details are stored in the same way. (I dont have a problem with the
first/last address listed on the same way as the road.) ... i WOULD have a
problem with EVERY address listed on the way of the road.

Fortunately, we have those COOL building=yes, where it helps. .. and perhaps
someday we will get the propoerty boundries imported.. then each boundary
area could have it's addr:number tag.

The point is to make it searchable right?? So if the supercomputer can
search for a specific address, the result would be a point in the relative
middlish of the road.  Until every house is listed, the super computer would
just have to guess.

Cheers,
Sam
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Michel Gilbert <michcasa at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2009/4/1 Sam Vekemans <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com>
>
>> Hi Simon,
>> Yup, It's kinda cool seeing both the CanVec roads & the geobase roads in
>> the same spot.
>> Check out Glenwoodville,AB
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.3667&lon=-113.5167&zoom=13&layers=B000FTF
>> when viewing the canvec data overtop.
>>
>
> I checked the area mentionned below. At intersections the osm ways do not
> share the same node. Therefore, it means that lines are not connected to
> each other. At intersections, it is important to share the same node. To
> duplicate nodes it may look fine cartographically but it does not respect
> the osm model.
>
> I decided to check other locations in Alberta and it seems that the problem
> is everywhere. Was anyone aware of that problem ?
>
> Michel
>
>>
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/a/acrosscanadatrails.com/www/Home/canvec2osmsamplearea082h05PincherCreekAB.zip
>>
>>
>> Look forward to the feedback,
>> Cheers,
>> Sam
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Sam Vekemans <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:35 AM
>> Subject: canvec2osm sample area tofino BC _with roads
>> To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>, Michel Gilbert <
>> michcasa at gmail.com>, Steve Singer <ssinger_pg at sympatico.ca>, Richard
>> Weait <richard at weait.com>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,Yupee,
>> I got the sample area saved (not yet posted to OSM) of Tofino, BC
>> You can view the zip file containing the .OSM files.
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/a/acrosscanadatrails.com/www/Home/canvec2osmsamplearea092f04tofinoBC.zip
>>
>>
>> The addition of the CanVec Roads looks good, so far.  But (of course)
>> would need to be fixed up.
>> I compared the geobase2osm roads, and i see that i have included a few
>> more tags that were not included in the geobase2osm script.
>>
>> For now the rules.txt file is available in the same place.
>> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=d2d8mrd_179gnhs54cw&hl=en
>>
>> I'm now working on the wiki chart, to show all of the tags that i use. ...
>> in the next few days it should be done. :-)
>>
>> ... i found this way (adding it to canvec2osm) rather than creating the
>> canvecROADS2osm script seemed to be easier.  Didn't take much longer to run
>> the script.
>>
>> For those who can read the rules.txt file let me know if you see any
>> errors.  (even if i already spot them, it's good to confirm what the right
>> tags should be.
>>
>> And Steve, my plan is still to wait till you run the geobase2osm script
>>  (unfortunatly i dont know how too),,, before loading any of the canvec data
>> on top.   If you have a chance, please let me know if it would be fine to be
>> importing the data for .. those areas of
>> very very little to know OSM data.?? .
>>
>> And everyone,.. since the geobase2osm script would detect that canvecROADS
>> were already imported, it would look at them the same way as user created
>> OSM Roads.???
>>
>> Thought on that anyone?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sam Vekemans
>> Across Canada Trails
>>
>>
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> Michel Gilbert
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