[Talk-ca] [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import workshop in Sherbrooke?

Sun Nov 8 21:59:00 GMT 2009

Hi all,

Okay, I wait for Canvec Import tool/script to organize the "Sherbrooke Couch
Mapping Party". I wait for Sam's script or Frank's to make the call. I'll be
willing to test the development if you need it.

thx,

Michel

2009/11/8 Sam Vekemans <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com>

> Oh ya,
> I'll be there via skype/video chat & IRC :)
>
> Sam
>
> On 11/8/09, Daniel Bégin <jfd553 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I’m in!
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: Michel Gilbert [mailto:michcasa at gmail.com]
> > Sent: November 7, 2009 19:49
> > To: osm-sherbrooke-discussion at lists.coactivate.org; Talk-CA
> OpenStreetMap
> > Cc: Yves Moisan; jfd553 at hotmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import
> > workshop in Sherbrooke?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Frank, Yves and all,
> >
> > I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract
> > people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in
> November,
> > could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party
> with
> > no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace.  We would need
> a
> > place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a
> room
> > where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on
> > Wellington meets all the requirements.
> >
> > In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could
> explain
> > importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch).
>  Any
> > volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would
> be
> > to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my
> knowledge, I
> > don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in
> > development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We
> > (Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter
> but
> > the tool won't be available in short terms.
> >
> > If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to
> organize
> > the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda:
> >    - Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags
> >    - Training on Importing tools
> >    - Explain OSM xml file
> >    - Training on JOSM
> >    - Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data.
> >
> > Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will
> keep
> > on discussing to put in place the missing pieces.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/11/6 Frank Steggink <steggink at steggink.org>
> >
> > Yves Moisan wrote:
> >
> > Hi Frank,
> >
> > Sorry for top posting, but I just want the ball rolling on the OSM
> > Sherbrooke list.  Michel was thinking of a Sherbrooke OSM meeting end
> > November.  I think the training you are proposing could be part of that
> > meeting, although it is probably a bit technical for the average mapper.
> > Michel, what do you think ?
> >
> > Yves
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I just had an idea, but because I don't know if it is a good one, I'll
> > share it with you. Would it be a good idea to organize a workshop to
>  import
> > Geobase and Canvec data?
> >
> > Today I was contacted by Oxalin, who has been editing in Granby  lately,
> and
> > he mentioned that he and a friend are willing to help with  the import as
> > well (at least for St-Jean-sur-Richelieu). Perhaps there  are also some
> > people from Montreal interested. There is a large  concentration of users
> in
> > Sherbrooke, and because it is somewhat in  between Montreal and Quebec, I
> > think it would be the most obvious  location.
> >
> > Regarding the workshop: I could explain how to import the roads, and
>  edit /
> > make connections with JOSM. We could also discuss the import of  Canvec
> and
> > NHN (hydro) data, because both Daniel and I are interested  in it. Maybe
> > Michel can explain how he imported the data through FME,  although I'm
> not
> > sure if this is relevant, because not everyone has  access to it.
> >
> > About NHN import: I think that users from the Montreal area should  also
> > pick up the gauntlet. There is a whole lot of data to be  imported. I
> also
> > have no idea about the current data quality, but I  expect this to be a
> huge
> > undertaking. (And what I've done so far pales  in comparison with that.)
> > Anyways, they'll also benefit from OSM :)
> >
> > If you think this would be a good idea, what would be the term to
>  organize
> > such an event? A couple of hours, together with a small  mapping party
> > (proposal: gathering and entering addresses) should be  enough. And of
> > course a dinner at the end of the day :) For me it  won't be a problem to
> > come from Quebec, but I would prefer doing this  before the winter really
> > sets in. The winter is too cold and snowy to  venture outdoors anyways,
> so
> > what would be better than to spend our  time importing data in our
> beloved
> > Open Street Map?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > Hi Yves,
> >
> > What kind of meeting are you considering? Is it a mapping party, or just
> an
> > event planned in an evening. In the latter case it won't be possible for
> me
> > to attend, because of the distance. When the idea is to hold a mapping
> party
> > (on a day in the weekend), I think it can be combined very well. For
> > example, we could start an hour earlier in the morning, and I can explain
> a
> > number of things about the import. The mapping party itself could start
> > afterwards, so then people who do not care about the import, don't have
> to
> > hear all of this stuff. I only mentioned "a couple of hours" because I
> was
> > not aware you were thinking about organizing something yourself, and
> someone
> > from farther away would not come if there was not a mapping party or
> > something else going on.
> >
> > Right now the import of Geobase and Canvec data in Quebec is gaining
> > momentum, so this is an excellent occasion to get more people jumping in
> :)
> > Daniel already mentioned that he and Michel were interested in adding
> Canvec
> > data around Sherbrooke (although I hope they're willing to extend their
> > efforts to the rest of Quebec too). Also Alex (user:Oxalin) and his
> friend
> > are willing to lend a hand. So, that would already be 5 persons, if all
> of
> > them can attend, and 6 including you. And, as mentioned I also hope to
> get
> > some people from the Montreal area interested.
> >
> > Importing all of the data is a lot of work. I think that road-wise we're
> > about halfway in Quebec. Not too bad, but it could be better, considering
> > that other provinces are "finished". Importing is more than just
> uploading
> > the data to the OSM server, so I want to pay some attention to cleanup an
> > other quality aspects as well. This certainly improves the data quality,
> > which opens the way for things like routing. Although information about
> the
> > import is available in several places (wiki, talk-ca), it is hard for
> > someone just starting to get going. Unfortunately the guy who took on
> > himself to coordinate the import has a communication style which is hard
> to
> > follow. Also the wiki pages are outdated, or not entirely correct (as is
> the
> > current shp-to-osm page). Certainly, someone could improve it, but I
> think
> > it would be more effective to show in person how things are working, what
> to
> > look for, etc. Hence this idea.
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
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> >
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