[Talk-ca] Licence donnees.gouv.qc.ca

Bruno Remy bremy.qc.ca at gmail.com
Fri Mar 15 15:59:40 UTC 2013

Well... Make it simple:

That's more odbl compatible than "actual home-made canadian licences"
Regard on that fact, that's OSM compatible
So, this is a "Way to go" !  :)

Bruno Remy
Le 2013-03-15 10:18, "Pierre Béland" <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> a écrit :

> Richard,
> I understand that you would prefer that this evolves differently, but lets
> focus on the subject and try to progress in the right direction. This url
> http://www.data.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&n=0D3F42BD-1 describe  proposed
> license for the government of Canada Open data site to be effective soon.
> Following discussions with provincial governments some agree if not all to
> use the same license. This is the case of the government of Quebec.
> Could OSM contributors help to progress in the right direction and comment
> about the license? After that we will be able to focus on obtaining more
> data.
> The questionI ask yout to answer : Is this proposed license compatible or
> not to import data into OSM.
> Pierre
>   ------------------------------
> *De :* Richard Weait <richard at weait.com>
> *À :* Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>
> *Cc :* talk-ca <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
> *Envoyé le :* Vendredi 15 mars 2013 7h04
> *Objet :* Re: [Talk-ca] Licence donnees.gouv.qc.ca
> 2013/3/14 Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>
> [ ... ] This license is said to be derived from the United Kingdom
> license which is said to be compatible with the ODbL (and thus OSM ).
> I would appreciate your comments on this.
> All right.  You asked.  :-)
> The governments, municipal, provincial and federal, who choose to create
> or modify an Open Data license are hurting Open Data.  The first stab wound
> was the misguided Vancouver Open Data license and we have not yet stopped
> the bleeding.
> Modifying an Open Data license is similar to declaring that "in my
> municipality, we will use a modification of a standard electrical appliance
> plug and socket."  The plug from a Waterloo Region toaster may be
> incompatible with an socket in Quebec City in obvious or subtle ways.
> Household appliances might move periodically when an owner moves, or when
> an appliance is sent as a gift.  Open Data, by definition, is intended to
> be combined and compared and moved about, further and more often than a
> simple appliance.
> We've been clever enough to standardize our appliance plugs across the
> continent.  It is important to standardize our Open Data licenses around
> the world.
> Governments.  Use the Open Data licenses drafted and curated by the Open
> Data Commons at the Open Knowledge Foundation.  You (governments) do not
> have the mandate from your citizens to spend their money to learn the
> things that you need to know about international data law that are required
> to draft a rational Open Data license.  To do so in each municipality and
> province is a phenomenal waste of resources.  And you don't have the
> mandate to consume resources to maintain that license once you draft it.
> International data law is new and evolving.  You can't keep up.
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