[Talk-ca] Federal licence : Confusion

[Bruno Remy]

Those kind of attribution terms are (imo) too conservative considering that
they can be applicable for old-school "spreadsheets-like" datawiz , but
can't definitively not be applicable to geospatial data.

How do you manage the crowdsourcing of data in a single place, while
zooming in and out?
-traffic lights, hydrants, maxspeeds coming from municipality,
-natural parcs, main roads names, leisure parcs from provincial
-highways, rivers, woods from federal

Attribution with the tag [source="xxxxxx"] should be the standard (and this
is the case in many many others countries in the world.....).


This is a little bit disapointing....

cheers,

Bruno




2015-10-11 20:42 GMT-04:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:

> > I thought I read on this list in the past that OSM had permission
> directly from NRCan to use the CanVec data.
>
> That permission was given before the change of license and upload clause.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 11 October 2015 at 20:19, Bernie Connors <berniejconnors at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I thought I read on this list in the past that OSM had permission
>> directly from NRCan to use the CanVec data.
>>
>> Bernie.
>>
>> BTW, the GeoNB Open Data Licence in New Brunswick is more permissive with
>> its attribution clause. We use "should" instead of "must"‎ therefore it is
>> not a requirement, just a suggestion.
>>
>> http://geonb.snb.ca/documents/license/geonb-odl_en.pdf
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
>> *From: *john whelan
>> *Sent: *Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:19 PM
>> *To: *Bruno Remy
>> *Cc: *talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
>> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] Federal licence : Confusion
>>
>> The agreement between CANVEC and OSM was drawn up before the .odbl
>> license and change to the uploading procedure which says any data uploaded
>> to OSM can have its license changed.
>>
>> I'm of the opinion that the CANVEC licensed data cannot now be imported
>> into OSM under the new conditions however others in Talk-ca have said that
>> I don't know what I'm talking about.
>>
>> In other words don't ask, don't tell and let's face it without the CANVEC
>> data there would be very little left.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> 2015-10-11 19:06 GMT-04:00 Bruno Remy <bremy.qc.ca at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> [English message will follow]
>>>
>>> Bonjour à tous,
>>>
>>> OpenStreetMap utilise les données de CANVEC.
>>> Les données ouvertes de CANVEC proviennent de Ressources naturelles
>>> Canada.
>>> outes les données Ressources naturelles Canada sont assujetties à la Licence
>>> du gouvernement ouvert – Canada.
>>> <http://ouvert.canada.ca/fr/licence-du-gouvernement-ouvert-canada>
>>> La Licence du gouvernement ouvert – Canada comporte une clause
>>> d'attribution contraignante pour OSM et incompatible avec notre licence
>>> ODBL.
>>>
>>> Alors? Que fait-on? ....
>>> ----
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> OpenStreetMaps imports CANVEC data.
>>> CANVEC OpenData are provided by Natural Resources Canada.
>>> All Natural Resources Canada data are subject to the Open Government
>>> Licence – Canada.
>>> <http://open.canada.ca/en/open-government-licence-canada>
>>> Open Government Licence - Canada includes a restrictive attribution term
>>> witch is not compatible with our ODBL licence.
>>>
>>> So ... What ? .....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bruno Remy
>>>
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>>
>>
>


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Bruno Remy
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