[Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work

James james2432 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 28 18:13:00 UTC 2018


2011 sound like an import before there was a protocol on discussing
imports, too bad they didnt complete it

On Feb 28, 2018 1:06 PM, "keith hartley" <keith.a.hartley at gmail.com> wrote:

> More intriguing with Brandon, there's tons of buildings already there from
> the MLI source... dated from 2011, how did they get there?
> I emailed the user to get more info - but they were last mapping 5 years
> ago!
>
> For the purposes of the high school work - I could use the current
> building footprints, if we're waiting for a year - any good ideas how to
> get students to add if a building is accessible/not accessible?
>
> After I can work though the process similar to what James has said,
> luckily, unlike Ottawa, Brandon is a much smaller place. I have a few other
> cities that we might be able to work with once I have a solid process set
> up.
>
> Rural Manitoba also poses a big challenge - Specially as we have two
> different addressing systems - But that's another email rant.
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:59 AM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Before Scruss comes out and says it:
>> 1. Wiki documentation
>> 2. You need to get LWG to approve license as it's not a standard license.
>> Explicit permission can certainly help our case.
>>
>> After license is approved we could move on to approval of data quality,
>> then submit it for revue on import list(p.s. if it's crappy data they are
>> going to tell you about how it's crappy)
>>
>> After all that(maybe 1-2 years later) can we move on to the serving of
>> data via a tasking manager and start the import
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2018 11:54 AM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Similar to does not mean the same unless it is the TB Open Data license
>>> but I suspect it predates that one.  Given that Stats Canada has said it
>>> will make the data available through the Federal Government's Open Data
>>> portal real soon now I suspect that an email from the city even to yourself
>>> would be acceptable.
>>>
>>> There is an import process speak nicely to James and he may be kind
>>> enough to handhold you through it.
>>>
>>> The LWG will give an opinion on the license but it could take some
>>> considerable time to do so.
>>>
>>> The import needs to be approved by a the local community.  In Ottawa two
>>> or three local mappers gathered together over coffee to approve it.  I
>>> think there were more than three.
>>>
>>> Given your suspected time frames its probably best to document the
>>> import fairly quickly.  That way it allows for those mappers who feel
>>> imports are terrible to have their say.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 28 February 2018 at 10:31, keith hartley <keith.a.hartley at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi OSM'ers
>>>>
>>>> I am working on adding buildings to OSM in Manitoba and have a few
>>>> questions. I was just offered an updated building footprint and address
>>>> shape file from the City of Brandon, and agreement that it can be used in
>>>> OSM. I understand that the license needs to be compliant with the OSMs of
>>>> course, and will email the licensing group. The City uses a open data
>>>> license similar to Ottawa's (can be seen here
>>>> http://opengov.brandon.ca/terms.aspx) I can get  written consent in an
>>>> email if need be as well. Currently the buildings are from the Manitoba
>>>> land initiative website (MLI) and I can see that the city of Brandon Data
>>>> is much more accurate (in both attributes and position) I will review the
>>>> current data. Is there anything else I should be doing before I upload
>>>> this?
>>>>
>>>> The plan is to have high school students look at the map and using
>>>> walking maps or equivalent data capture (android app) to find what is
>>>> accessible for people with mobility issues around their schools. I'll write
>>>> the results on a wiki to show our successes. Anyone else have good ideas
>>>> how to get students to add to the map? (with teacher oversight of course!)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Keith
>>>>
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