[Talk-ca] Revisiting exits with “names” in Ontario and Quebec

[Jherome Miguel]

Sorry if I had said that. Also read my last email since you replied to one
of my posts. Remember the 2016 exit tagging fixup project I’ve linked on
one of my latest emails?

On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 7:05 PM John Whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> So far you haven't really given a good case for the change other than "I
> think this way."  If you think the Ontario and Quebec mappers are a clique
> then reread the emails in the list.  It's rare that Pierre and I agree on
> everything.
>
> If you have a case then state it but I've seen nothing other than you
> think it should be done in a different way.
>
> I would remind you that in OSM the authority is the local mappers so you
> need to convince them with a reasonable arguments and I don't think your
> comment that we just need to reeducate people goes along way to convincing
> them to be onside with your ideas.
>
> Bye John
>
>
> Jherome Miguel wrote on 7/4/2021 8:46 PM:
>
> Just because I’m from another province, you’re just going to discredit me
> in favour of a clique within your province who would just do what they want
> with the map even if it’s against good practice. We’re not going far just
> because an Albertan finds fault with a tagging scheme a small group is
> happy with.
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 6:32 PM john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> But they are happy with the status quo and that's what counts not what
>> you think is best.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 20:30 Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And what if their tagging practices are in major conflict with good
>>> practice? Mapping for the renderer in particular.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 5:48 PM john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> By the way that little group of mappers are local to Ontario and
>>>> Quebec.  I think you'll find that in OSM what the local mappers want and
>>>> decide goes.  Living in Alberta doesn't really make you a local mapper.
>>>>
>>>> Cheerio John
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 19:37 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And your problem is?
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 19:09 Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Every person do have their own mapping styles as well. Unfortunately,
>>>>>> that do sometime lead to conflicts and edit wars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Back on the issue, this appears to be a reboot of a related thread
>>>>>> from 2018:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2018-November/008852.html.
>>>>>> Looks like we’re continuously in war with a small camp of mappers who want
>>>>>> to keep the mess they’ve created. It has been planned two times these
>>>>>> “names” should go; one is successful, but has been undone, and the second
>>>>>> appears to have stalled (MapRoulette challenge set up, but looks
>>>>>> like nothing changed for Ontario and Quebec. All other provinces have been
>>>>>> cleaned up except a few legit instances of named interchanges).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 4:38 PM John Whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OSM is all about local mappers and North America does it this way
>>>>>>> doesn't really mean much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quebec in particular likes to show it's independence.  Ottawa maps
>>>>>>> it's buildings differently to other locations in Canada.  When asked about
>>>>>>> it the local mappers simply said they like the way it was done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Talk first if you must on talk-ca but I don't see any enthusiasm for
>>>>>>> what you are proposing especially if it means reeducating people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheerio John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jherome Miguel wrote on 7/4/2021 5:42 PM:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we use throughout North America.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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