[Talk-ca] Fwd: Fwd: Revisiting exits with “names” in Ontario and Quebec

[john whelan]

I hate to say this but the wiki is not the authority.  It is what someone
has written in the wiki.

There have been times when two wiki enteries have contridicted each other
and times when a wiki entry does not follow what has been done.

Using the term clique doesn't help your case in trying to persuade others.
It might even put people's backs up which is not what you are trying to do
or at least I assume so.

Cheerio John


On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 9:59 PM Jherome Miguel, <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: Revisiting exits with “names” in Ontario and
> Quebec
> To: talk-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
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> The issue with what that clique has been doing with Ontario and Quebec
> highway exits is not only tagging for the renderer, but also not following
> best tagging practices followed elsewhere. For exits, most of Canada
> generally observing the practices documented at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exit_Info. Also there is a note about
> the use of name=* for highway=motorway_junction, which I quote here:
>
>
>    - name=* for the name of the junction or interchange. Do not confuse
>    the *name of a junction* with the *destination(s) the junction *leads
>    to. In most cases worldwide, sign information describes destinations,
>    not the name of the junction or interchange itself. If a signpost or
>    indication displays destinations exclusively, this data belongs
>    to destination=* tags, *not* the name=* of the highway=motorway_junction
>    node.
>
>
> In this case, the names in the exits are not an innocent mistake, but a
> problematic tagging practice perpetuated by a small group of mappers. Add
> to the problem is that name=* is rendered at the main map layer, further
> encouraging some mappers to tag destinations as “names” just for the render
> result.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 6:48 PM john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is normally politeness to ask someone if they are happy if emails sent
>> between two people is to be shared more generally.  My comments might have
>> been slightly different in view of the different audience.
>>
>> To recap we have determined that you are not local to Ontario or Quebec.
>> The local mappers who have commented are not in agreement with your
>> thoughts.
>>
>> In OSM the authority is the consensus of the local mappers.
>>
>> and to recap your problem is?
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 at 20:34, Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ngah, should have replied to all. Not just you.
>>>
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