[Talk-ca] What do I poutine the name tag of a road with a suffix?

[Ian Bruseker]

Went right on the attack there, didn't ya?  Sorry I contribute nothing.
But don't presume to know what I think...

"You agree that the ST should be Steet in OSM". I in fact made no such
statement.  Didn't say a thing about how street types should be stored in
the database.  I said "I'm not saying it's the right way to do it" in the
context of how the two letter quadrant is in that database.  I'm actually
agreeing with you, dude.  As is the classic debate, this is a renderer
problem, so if you want anyone to actually use this thing, then if it all
gets changed to full word in the database, the renderer better show it
abbreviated, or no one in Calgary would use it.  That's my "I'm a local"
opinion.  Go ahead, make your perfect database of perfect data all you
want, but it'll be a tree falling in the forest for all I care if it's not
actually useful.

Ian


On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 16:44, Martin Chalifoux <martin.chalifoux at icloud.com>
wrote:

> OSM tags and street signage usually don’ t match. Many town use Rd and
> Blvd and such on their signage. Yet this is not what we put in OSM for many
> good reasons. You add nothing and repeat old arguments that I don’t buy
> into.
>
> Here is a small extract from the database you link to. Street name: 24,
> Street type: ST, Street Quad: SE
> You agree that the ST should be Steet in OSM yet you get hung up on not
> using Southeast for SE. Our policy is to avoid abbreviations and there is
> no reason to treat TYPE and QUAD differently, they are both a
> characterization fo the street name, which is “24”
>
> Could it be that this issue keeps coming back it because some people
> insist on doing it wrong, so it keeps coming back because it is never fixed.
>
> Cheers.
>
> ADDRESS
> STREET_NAME
> STREET_TYPE
> STREET_QUAD
> HOUSE_NUMBER
> HOUSE_ALPHA
> ADDRESS_TYPE
> longitude
> latitude
> location
> POINT
> 9895 24 ST SE
> 24
> ST
> SE
> 9895
>
>
> On Dec 15, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Ian Bruseker <ian.bruseker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is kinda interesting, seeing all you people have a big long
> discussion about how to map where I live.  If you want me to go out my door
> and take a picture of a street sign, I'd be happy to.  Street signs have
> NW, NE, whatever on them, not the whole word, if they have that at all.
> Small suburban named roads don't generally seem to, I would think because
> once you got that deep into a neighbourhood, you already know you're in a
> given quadrant so no point wasting ink to keep telling you that on the
> sign.  Someone earlier said something along the lines of "according to a
> friend of a friend who lives in Calgary..."  Well, I do live here.  Ask
> your questions about what this city does.
>
>
>
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