[Talk-ca] What do I poutine the name tag of a road with a suffix?

[François Lambert]

Hi,

Not sure if It could help, but the Alberta Register of Historic Places 
use North, South, East, West, but for quadrant they use NE, SE, SW and NW.

Ex: Lethbridge 
https://hermis.alberta.ca/ARHP/Details.aspx?DeptID=1&ObjectID=4664-0426

Calgary: 
https://hermis.alberta.ca/ARHP/Details.aspx?DeptID=1&ObjectID=4665-0845

François Lambert

Le 2022-12-15 à 19:13, Ian Bruseker a écrit :
> Went right on the attack there, didn't ya?  Sorry I contribute 
> nothing.  But don't presume to know what I think...
>
> "You agree that the ST should be Steet in OSM". I in fact made no such 
> statement.  Didn't say a thing about how street types should be stored 
> in the database.  I said "I'm not saying it's the right way to do it" 
> in the context of how the two letter quadrant is in that database.  
> I'm actually agreeing with you, dude.  As is the classic debate, this 
> is a renderer problem, so if you want anyone to actually use this 
> thing, then if it all gets changed to full word in the database, the 
> renderer better show it abbreviated, or no one in Calgary would use 
> it.  That's my "I'm a local" opinion.  Go ahead, make your perfect 
> database of perfect data all you want, but it'll be a tree falling in 
> the forest for all I care if it's not actually useful.
>
> Ian
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 16:44, Martin Chalifoux 
> <martin.chalifoux at icloud.com> wrote:
>
>     OSM tags and street signage usually don’ t match. Many town use Rd
>     and Blvd and such on their signage. Yet this is not what we put in
>     OSM for many good reasons. You add nothing and repeat old
>     arguments that I don’t buy into.
>
>     Here is a small extract from the database you link to. Street
>     name: 24, Street type: ST, Street Quad: SE
>     You agree that the ST should be Steet in OSM yet you get hung up
>     on not using Southeast for SE. Our policy is to avoid
>     abbreviations and there is no reason to treat TYPE and QUAD
>     differently, they are both a characterization fo the street name,
>     which is “24”
>
>     Could it be that this issue keeps coming back it because some
>     people insist on doing it wrong, so it keeps coming back because
>     it is never fixed.
>
>     Cheers.
>
>     ADDRESS
>     STREET_NAME
>     STREET_TYPE
>     STREET_QUAD
>     HOUSE_NUMBER
>     HOUSE_ALPHA
>     ADDRESS_TYPE
>     longitude
>     latitude
>     location
>     POINT
>     9895 24 ST SE
>     24
>     ST
>     SE
>     9895
>
>
>>     On Dec 15, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Ian Bruseker
>>     <ian.bruseker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>     This is kinda interesting, seeing all you people have a big long
>>     discussion about how to map where I live.  If you want me to go
>>     out my door and take a picture of a street sign, I'd be happy
>>     to.  Street signs have NW, NE, whatever on them, not the whole
>>     word, if they have that at all.  Small suburban named roads don't
>>     generally seem to, I would think because once you got that deep
>>     into a neighbourhood, you already know you're in a given quadrant
>>     so no point wasting ink to keep telling you that on the sign. 
>>     Someone earlier said something along the lines of "according to a
>>     friend of a friend who lives in Calgary..." Well, I do live
>>     here.  Ask your questions about what this city does.
>>
>
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