[Talk-de] Quellenangabe bei Weiterverarbeitung

Johann H. Addicks addicks at gmx.net
Fr Sep 19 16:16:00 UTC 2008


> Ist ja schön dass es ein relicensing geben soll. Aber dennoch ist es mit der
> momentanen Lizenz nicht eindeutig legal, OSM für irgendwas zu benutzen ohne
> *alle* Autoren zu nennen.

> Das nur als Quintessenz für Presse-Anfragen, habe ich  
bisher falsch
> verstanden gehabt und auch falsch weiter gegeben.

Ich zitiere aus:

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007- 
December/035571.html

Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell at gmail.com
Sat Dec 1 20:50:38 UTC 2007
[quote on]

3) Speaking of 'attribution', the Creative Commons cc-by and
by-sa licenses at version 2.5 and beyond contain a serious
issue with their attribution.  The attribution clauses in
these licenses reads, in part,

"If you distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or
publicly digitally perform the Work or any Derivative Works
or Collective Works, You must (...) provide, reasonable to
the medium or means You are utilizing: (i) the name of the
Original Author (...), and/or (ii) if the Original Author
and/or Licensor designate another party or parties" (...)
(through) terms of service or by other reasonable means"

So these by-attribution licenses don't actually provide
attribution if a service provider specifies  so in their
terms of service.  Jamesday (en User:Jamesday), a Wikimedian
old-schooler, wrote a lot about this back when these terms
came out.

Obviously the issue of attribution for collective works in a
space limited medium is important, but it can be addressed
without giving service providers the ability to take
attribution for  all freely licensed content distributed
through their systems.

The exact implications of that text aren't entirely clear:
If the clause only takes effect at the first point of
submission it breaks the right to fork, and fails to resolve
the collective attribution problem (i.e. you end up with
"This article contains material by Wikia(tm), WikiHow(tm),
Wikipedia(tm), GregPedia, Planet Math ..."). Or,
alternatively, if any down stream service provider can
invoke it .. it allows anyone who could claim to be a
service provider to remove attribution at any time... which
many consider to be morally offensive, and which present
practical problems for people trying to keep works free.

[quote off]

Geht seitens des Autors in die völlig gegenteilige Richtung,  
zeigt habe,r wie weit man die CC auch verbiegen kann.

-jha-






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