[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell Gritting Routes

Brian Prangle bprangle at gmail.com
Mon Oct 24 10:13:17 BST 2011


Hi Gareth

Many thanks for your offer of help, but ED is correct - we've already
utilised the text route directions published by Walsall Council to complete
our gritting map.  What would be of great benefit would be for someone to
check the inconsistencies we found (see below) and feedback to us. Also it
would be great if you could keep us up to date of any changes
ot gritting routes.

Regards

Brian

Walsall Gritting

Walsall's gritting routes are in the PDF at
http://www.walsall.gov.uk/index/winter_service.htm

There are 16 routes (p14 onwards); 8 priority 1and 8 priority 2, all centred
on Cable Drive depot, at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.59793&lon=-1.99386&zoom=16&layers=M

If you are able & willing to tag one of these routes with:

   - maintenance=gritting
   - gritting=priority_1 (routes 1-8)
   - gritting=priority_2 (routes 9-16)
   - gritting_route_ref=1 (numbers 1-8)
   - gritting_operator=Walsall MBC (The latter mainly to differentiate from
   neighbouring authorities)


   1. - Andy Mabbett - Done.
   2. - Andy Mabbett - (problem: p17, After first "stop gritting", no "start
   gritting" before next "stop"; I've assumed gritting starts again on
   Littleton Street East, otherwise, why is the lane specified?). Owen Road &
   Birmingham Street sections also confusing. References to "Anson Road
   Junction"/ "Anson Junction" make no sense. Ends with two "stop gritting"
   sections. - Stopped at first "Anson" reference.
   3. - Andy Mabbett - After Broadway, where is TR from West Bromwich Road
   to West Bromwich Street? - Otherwise, done.
   4. - Andy Mabbett - Done.
   5. - Andy Mabbett - Why the apparent detour, up and down Spring Road,
   without gritting? "Lichfield Street Left Slip Road" added to map. - Done.
   6. - Andy Mabbett - lines 3-5 ("Foley Rd") not clear - Otherwise, done.
   7. - Andy Mabbett - Norton Road does not run to boundary, so assume this
   includes part of Lime Lane?; No Wyrley Road, so assume Wyrley Lane; Can't
   find Castle Road off Howdles Lane. - Done.
   8. - Brian - `Problems follow: Bradford St TL to Corporation St TR Pleck
   Road - couldn't make any sense of these directions. Entrance to and exit
   from Park Road Bloxwich is ambiguous; is my choice the correct one? High St
   Bloxwich TL and start gritting Green Lane: is the slip road the route and
   does it get gritted? Also TL from High St is into Somerfield Road which only
   becomes Green Lane after the roundabout according to our data. - DONE
   9. - Brian Problems follow Essington Rd TR Dorchester Rd should be TL.
   DONE
   10. - Brian Problems follow Is Diversion due to Bridge Closure on Bentley
   Road South still in operation? DONE
   11. - Brian Problems follow Wolverhampton St TR Pinfold St Stop Gritting
   should be TL. DONE
   12. - Brian DONE
   13. - Brian Problems follow: Chester Rd TR Lazy Hill Road should read
   TL.At end of route Chester Rd TR Castlehill Rd should read TL DONE
   14. - Brian Turn direction Daw End Lane to King George Crescent missing.
   Turn direction King George Crescent to Floyds Lane missing - have I chosen
   the correct direction? Broadway North TL Princes Avenue not sure I've used
   the correct route here. DONE
   15. - Brian DONE - there were problems but I lost all my wiki edits -
   they're only minor and the gritting route is complete
   16. - Brian Problems follow: Harden Rd TR start gritting Coalpool Lane -
   Coalpool Lane is TL from Harden Rd. The Pinfold TL Goodhall St is Woodall St
   according to our data and OS StreetView. Ingram Road TR Start gritting Field
   Road SO The Pinfold - to do this you need Ingram Road TL. Wolverhampton Road
   TL Clarendon St you need TR. New St TR Stop gritting Clarendon ST TL Elmore
   Green Rd to get to Elmore Green Rd you need New St TL Clarendon St. DONE


On 23 October 2011 11:46, Gareth Illmann-Walker <
subscribe at illmann-walker.com> wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> As I'm a councillor in Walsall and just happened to be on the Winter
> Planning Sub-Committee, I'm more than happy to ask for the routes (for
> Walsall) on your behalf, can't think of any reason they'd not give them me.
>
> However as I've been out with the gritters you should note that the routes
> start and stop quite a lot so they're not like one continuous route. This is
> because there is crossover in terms of the routes the drivers have to take
> to get to the roads they actually have to grit.
>
> Gareth
>
>
> On 22/10/2011 14:55, Brian Prangle wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
>  Thanks to Andy Mabbett for showing us where these files are located. I
> went to start editing one of the gritting routes today and discovered that
> the pdf files are all crown copyright maps derived from the OS so are in
> fact useless for our purposes- what we need are text-based descriptions -
> ideally the actual routes given to the gritting drivers as published by
> Solihull, Wolverhampton and Walsall; or a list of streets as published by
> Birmingham
>
>  Regards
>
>  Brian
>
>
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