[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell Gritting Routes

Mon Oct 24 18:49:48 BST 2011

I have a retired highways engineer contact for Sandwell. He’s investigating
for me. More once I hear back.

Cheers

Andy

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bprangle at gmail.com] 
Sent: 24 October 2011 10:13
To: Gareth Illmann-Walker
Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell Gritting Routes

Hi Gareth

Many thanks for your offer of help, but ED is correct - we've already
utilised the text route directions published by Walsall Council to complete
our gritting map.  What would be of great benefit would be for someone to
check the inconsistencies we found (see below) and feedback to us. Also it
would be great if you could keep us up to date of any changes ot gritting
routes.

Regards

Brian

Walsall Gritting

Walsall's gritting routes are in the PDF at
<http://www.walsall.gov.uk/index/winter_service.htm>
http://www.walsall.gov.uk/index/winter_service.htm

There are 16 routes (p14 onwards); 8 priority 1and 8 priority 2, all centred
on Cable Drive depot, at
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.59793&lon=-1.99386&zoom=16&layers=M>
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.59793&lon=-1.99386&zoom=16&layers=M

If you are able & willing to tag one of these routes with:

§  maintenance=gritting

§  gritting=priority_1 (routes 1-8)

§  gritting=priority_2 (routes 9-16)

§  gritting_route_ref=1 (numbers 1-8)

§  gritting_operator=Walsall MBC (The latter mainly to differentiate from
neighbouring authorities)

1. - Andy Mabbett - Done.

2. - Andy Mabbett - (problem: p17, After first "stop gritting", no "start
gritting" before next "stop"; I've assumed gritting starts again on
Littleton Street East, otherwise, why is the lane specified?). Owen Road &
Birmingham Street sections also confusing. References to "Anson Road
Junction"/ "Anson Junction" make no sense. Ends with two "stop gritting"
sections. - Stopped at first "Anson" reference.

3. - Andy Mabbett - After Broadway, where is TR from West Bromwich Road to
West Bromwich Street? - Otherwise, done.

4. - Andy Mabbett - Done.

5. - Andy Mabbett - Why the apparent detour, up and down Spring Road,
without gritting? "Lichfield Street Left Slip Road" added to map. - Done.

6. - Andy Mabbett - lines 3-5 ("Foley Rd") not clear - Otherwise, done.

7. - Andy Mabbett - Norton Road does not run to boundary, so assume this
includes part of Lime Lane?; No Wyrley Road, so assume Wyrley Lane; Can't
find Castle Road off Howdles Lane. - Done.

8. - Brian - `Problems follow: Bradford St TL to Corporation St TR Pleck
Road - couldn't make any sense of these directions. Entrance to and exit
from Park Road Bloxwich is ambiguous; is my choice the correct one? High St
Bloxwich TL and start gritting Green Lane: is the slip road the route and
does it get gritted? Also TL from High St is into Somerfield Road which only
becomes Green Lane after the roundabout according to our data. - DONE

9. - Brian Problems follow Essington Rd TR Dorchester Rd should be TL. DONE

10.  - Brian Problems follow Is Diversion due to Bridge Closure on Bentley
Road South still in operation? DONE

11.  - Brian Problems follow Wolverhampton St TR Pinfold St Stop Gritting
should be TL. DONE

12.  - Brian DONE

13.  - Brian Problems follow: Chester Rd TR Lazy Hill Road should read TL.At
end of route Chester Rd TR Castlehill Rd should read TL DONE

14.  - Brian Turn direction Daw End Lane to King George Crescent missing.
Turn direction King George Crescent to Floyds Lane missing - have I chosen
the correct direction? Broadway North TL Princes Avenue not sure I've used
the correct route here. DONE

15.  - Brian DONE - there were problems but I lost all my wiki edits -
they're only minor and the gritting route is complete

16.  - Brian Problems follow: Harden Rd TR start gritting Coalpool Lane -
Coalpool Lane is TL from Harden Rd. The Pinfold TL Goodhall St is Woodall St
according to our data and OS StreetView. Ingram Road TR Start gritting Field
Road SO The Pinfold - to do this you need Ingram Road TL. Wolverhampton Road
TL Clarendon St you need TR. New St TR Stop gritting Clarendon ST TL Elmore
Green Rd to get to Elmore Green Rd you need New St TL Clarendon St. DONE

On 23 October 2011 11:46, Gareth Illmann-Walker
<subscribe at illmann-walker.com> wrote:

Hi all,

As I'm a councillor in Walsall and just happened to be on the Winter
Planning Sub-Committee, I'm more than happy to ask for the routes (for
Walsall) on your behalf, can't think of any reason they'd not give them me.

However as I've been out with the gritters you should note that the routes
start and stop quite a lot so they're not like one continuous route. This is
because there is crossover in terms of the routes the drivers have to take
to get to the roads they actually have to grit.

Gareth

On 22/10/2011 14:55, Brian Prangle wrote: 

Hi everyone 

Thanks to Andy Mabbett for showing us where these files are located. I went
to start editing one of the gritting routes today and discovered that the
pdf files are all crown copyright maps derived from the OS so are in fact
useless for our purposes- what we need are text-based descriptions - ideally
the actual routes given to the gritting drivers as published by Solihull,
Wolverhampton and Walsall; or a list of streets as published by Birmingham

Regards

Brian

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