[Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Other Routes with Public Access

[Mike Harris]

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Subject: 	Re: Other Routes with Public Access
Date: 	Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:10:19 +0000
From: 	Mike Harris <mikh at delco.idps.co.uk>
To: 	Tom Hughes <tom at compton.nu>
CC: 	Mike Harris <mikh43 at googlemail.com>, talk-gb at openstreetmap.org



I would assume that information that is, for example, based on personal 
local knowledge or on personal conversations with people having such 
knowledge (including but not restricted to public servants in the 
Highway Authority) is a legitimate and unencumbered source. There are 
also, in some areas at least, lists of ORPAs that are publicly available 
(in the same way that the 'List of Streets' is publicly available). I am 
not aware of ORPAs ever being signed as such (although a few do have 
some sort of signage indicating that there is a public right of access - 
and others illegally indicating otherwise!).

I am not insensitive to the need for OSM to remain free of any copyright 
or similar restrictions but I do not think absence of physical signage 
/ipso facto/ constitutes such a barrier to use.

Mike Harris

On 24/03/2011 09:37, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 24/03/11 09:10, Mike Harris wrote:
>
>> PLEASE do not remove the ORPA designations - they are meaningful and
>> important (in the UK). An ORPA is a way that is not a "public right of
>> way" (i.e. public footpath, public bridleway, restricted byway or 'byway
>> open to all traffic') but nevertheless has legal rights for at least
>> pedestrian use.
> Nobody has questioned the importance of the information or whether it
> should be recorded.
>
> What has been questioned is whether the information that a particular
> path has that designation has come from a legitimate unencumbered source
> that we are able to use or whether it has come from sources which are
> subject to copyright and/or database right and which hence should not
> have been used.
>
> If the information has been acquired in a legitimate way then I don't
> think anybody has a problem with it staying - if it hasn't then it will
> need to be removed.
>
> Tom
>

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