[Talk-GB] traditional orchard survey

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On 05/05/2011 09:35, Peter Miller wrote:
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> On 5 May 2011 09:02, TimSC <mappinglists at sheerman-chase.org.uk 
> <mailto:mappinglists at sheerman-chase.org.uk>> wrote:
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>     Hi all,
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>     I thought this UK list of orchards was interesting. It would be
>     nice if they were to release it as open data. Not sure if they
>     traced it from some restricted source though.
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>
> Just what I was thinking as well.
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> Would someone (TimSC?) like to contact them. Given that it was from 
> aerial survey and given that we have access to Bing aerial then all we 
> need from these people is a geocodet and ideally also a name and their 
> reference code for the orchard. We can create the boundary from that 
> information. A geocode/name/reference is unlikely to contain any 
> restrictive IPR.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter
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>     http://www.ptes.org/index.php?page=205
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>     http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_9474000/9474777.stm
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>     I also notice the Kent Heritage Tree Project has launch events:
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>     Ashford 14th May (I might attend)
>     Canterbury 14th June
>     Tonbridge 10th July
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>     http://www2.btcv.org.uk/display/kent_heritage_tree_project
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>     TimSC
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I'm a bit surprised that such a dataset does not already exist.

A similar (? identical) dataset is available on the (still running) 
MAGIC website with the data owner being given as Natural England: 
http://magic.defra.gov.uk/datadoc/metadata.asp?datasetname=Traditional%20Orchards%20-%20Provisional%20%28England%29. 
I would presume that this is available for download under Natural 
England's non-open license.

Other organisations (and people) who may have more information on 
traditional orchard locations might include some of the following:

    * Local Biological Record Centres: I know the Notts one did some
      detailed landuse survey work in the late 1970s.
    * Local Wildlife Trusts: again some have substantial survey bases.
    * Coleopterists <http://www.coleopterist.org.uk/> (interested in
      specific orchard associated beetles). Recent data is likely to be
      point samples on a 100 m grid.
    * Mistletoe enthusiasts, specifically Jonathan Briggs of
      http://www.mistletoe.org.uk/
      <http://www.mistletoe.org.uk/home/index2.htm> who co-ordinated a
      national mistletoe survey in the 1990s.
    * Moth-ers and bug folk may also have specific orchard related
      interests (I know Joe Botting & Tristan Bantock have been pursuing
      the Mistletoe Bug in Severn Valley orchards).

Of course nearly every one of these organisations will have used OS 
mapping during data entry: but in many cases they may have someone who 
can give a sensible overview of at the vice-county level.

Jerry
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