[Talk-GB] Adding new bus stops from NaPTAN

Craig Loftus craigloftus+osm at googlemail.com
Mon Sep 19 11:31:48 BST 2011


> There would be no objection from the Traveline point of view of using
> the NaPTAN data released on data.gov.uk

Peter thanks for the reply but my question was more about getting out
of step with the original NaPTAN import process. At various places in
the OSM documentation of the process there are suggestions that users
shouldn't edit the actual NaPTAN data.

>> I realise the data.gov.uk release are not the most up to date, but the
>> Terms and Conditions on the travelinedata.org.uk are missing.
>
> I will be happy to add something to travelinedata.org.uk if it will
> clarify.  However the terms and conditions are those on data.gov.uk
> and we don't want to suggest there are any additional terms.

Here I was specifically referring to a broken link to the Terms and
Conditions for getting a password to download the daily (?) updates
available from the DfT directly; the link being on this page:
http://www.travelinedata.org.uk/naptan.htm. Though perhaps a remark
that releases from data.gov.uk are available under the OGL would be a
worthwhile addition.

Does anyone know if the OGL would require an addition to the
Contributors list for the data.gov.uk NaPTAN release, now that I have used less
than one hundredth of a percent of the release?

Regards,
Craig

On 19 September 2011 10:48, Peter J Stoner <stonerpj at mytraveline.info> wrote:
> In message <CAK5An89pm9i_BOnCkF39wz0+THwdp6+njGN83MaEv3DXioWrgw at mail.g
> mail.com>
>          Craig Loftus <craigloftus+osm at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I came across a stop that has been added since the import, so I found
>> the stop data in the NaPTAN release on data.gov.uk, parsed it with
>> naptan2osm and added.
>
>> Specifically: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1436667392
>
>> I just thought I'd best check that there are not objections to using
>> data from more recent NaPTAN releases?
>
> There would be no objection from the Traveline point of view of using
> the NaPTAN data released on data.gov.uk
>
>> I realise the data.gov.uk release are not the most up to date, but the
>> Terms and Conditions on the travelinedata.org.uk are missing.
>
> I will be happy to add something to travelinedata.org.uk if it will
> clarify.  However the terms and conditions are those on data.gov.uk
> and we don't want to suggest there are any additional terms.
>
> Prior to NaPTAN being on data.gov.uk Traveline provided OSM with a
> snapshot of the latest data.  We don't rule out being able to do that
> again but data.gov.uk is probably a good way to get the data.
>
> Best wishes
>
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> Peter J Stoner
> UK coordinator
> Traveline
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