[Talk-GB] European Walking Route E2 / Staffordshire Way / Viking Way

Gregory Williams gregory at gregorywilliams.me.uk
Wed Jan 9 15:28:15 GMT 2013


(Ooops. I managed to send this directly to Nick; I meant to reply to group)

I know that E2 exists down here in Kent. In the past couple of years a number of new signs have been put up on the North Downs Way, which E2 follows. These include an insert with a European flag and E2 on them.

Gregory

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:Nick.Whitelegg at solent.ac.uk]
> Sent: 09 January 2013 09:13
> To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] European Walking Route E2 / Staffordshire Way /
> Viking Way
> 
> 
> (Sorry for top posting and lack of quote marks, duff mail client)
> 
> FWIW I'm sure E2 exists. I remember recently reading something about the
> Pennine Way which suggests it was coincidental with the European route E2.
> 
> Wikipedia would appear to confirm:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E2_European_long_distance_path
> 
> Nick
> 
> -----SomeoneElse <lists at mail.atownsend.org.uk> wrote: -----
> To: talk-gb <Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org>
> From: SomeoneElse <lists at mail.atownsend.org.uk>
> Date: 09/01/2013 01:10AM
> Subject: [Talk-GB] European Walking Route E2 / Staffordshire Way / Viking
> Way
> 
> Does anyone know what's going on with European Walking Route E2?
> 
> I first spotted it when someone split the Staffordshire Way into 3 and added
> the middle relation to a new E2 super-relation.  I found that a bit odd, but no
> odder than adding unsigned C-road references to the map.
> 
> 
> I've recently looked again and found that that super-relation is no more and a
> new series have been created:
> 
> West Midlands:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1976230
> (contains lots of the individual ways that also form the Staffordshire Way,
> and some others)
> 
> East Midlands:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1976182
> (contains lots of the individual ways that also form the Viking Way, and some
> others)
> 
> 
> These are in turn part of:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1959505
> 
> which consists of:
> Way Lower Lees Road (153526213)
> Way Henley Road (147988092)
> Way Henley Road (147988091)
> Relation European walking route E2, UK, West Midlands (1976230)
> Relation European walking route E2, UK, South East England (1976229)
> Relation European walking route E2, UK, East of England (1976183)
> Relation European walking route E2, UK, Yorkshire and the Humber (1976184)
> Relation European walking route E2, UK, East Midlands (1976182)
> Way Preston Road (152559211)
> 
> (a curious mixture of ways and relations)
> 
> which is in turn part of:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1956169
> 
> which is a European E2 super-relation.  Here "operator:uk" is defined as
> "Long Distance Walkers Association", which also seems odd.
> 
> But E2 isn't mentioned here at all:
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Europe/Long-
> distance_paths
> 
> The West Midlands part of E2 seems to miss the last 6-months's updates
> that I've made to the Staffordshire Way, which would suggest that
> defining this bit of E2 in terms of the middle bit of the Staffordshire
> Way would save whoever's updating it the job of manually editing it.
> 
> It's the same with the East Midlands piece, as can be seen here:
> 
> http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=11&lat=53.08111&lon=-
> 0.68741&hill=0
> 
> 
> Does anyone know where this mystery E2 is coming from?  I'm sure there
> are lots of sources on the web, but are any of them suitably licenced
> for inclusion in OSM?  I don't believe that I have ever (on the
> Staffordshire Way or the Viking Way) seen an E2 signpost on the ground.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> (this question was prompted by me trying to update
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Staffordshire_Way#Progress to say
> something sensible)
> 
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