[Talk-GB] City names translation

[John Sturdy]

Since English has non-phonetic spelling (and some placenames are
particularly non-phonetic) there's no solid base for automatic
transliteration to something meaningful in another script, so I think
it's reasonable to put the Ukrainian spelling in explicitly, for
places for which such a spelling is established..

__John


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Pavlo Dudka <pavlo.dudka at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi! I would like to add ukrainian names for cities of UK, but found that
> SomeoneElse_Revert removed some of name:uk-tags in changeset 20757217 with a
> comment "reverting undiscussed Ukrainian "translations" including ones for
> which there's nothing on the ground".
> This is the list of cities I plan to modify: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4rF
>
> I raised the question in irc osm-gb and was surprised since there are local
> mappers that prefer to avoid adding name:**-tags. They say one should use
> algorithms to get name:** automatically. (I didn't find any algorithm for
> english-to-ukrainian conversion, although there is one for
> ukrainian-to-latin conversion)
>
> Actually I don't see any disadvantages on adding name:**-tags, but there are
> benefits described in
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Internationalization
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Translation#OpenStreetMap_map_data
> The most important - any service may use name:**-values without learning
> languages and implementing probably existing algorithms.
>
> Note, I agree that adding name:uk is unnecessary and useless for streets and
> other objects that were never translated to ukrainian. But large cities are
> often mentioned in [tranlated to ukrainian] news, books, web articles, etc.
> Let's add this information to OpenStreetMap.
>
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