[Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL

Rob Nickerson rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com
Mon Feb 23 16:34:03 UTC 2015

It's not inconsistent. It's well known that Robert and I have a different
view to risk here. I have never felt that the OS OpenData licence would
cause problems for osm because I feel that the OS stood to lose more if
they ever tried to sure over it. But I understood the fundamental concern
so held back. But there is no need to hold back now.

Sometimes in OSM we are our own worst enemy.

On 23 Feb 2015 16:22, "Owen Boswarva" <owen.boswarva at gmail.com> wrote:

> That seems inconsistent. If OSM was concerned about the OS OpenData
> Licence before, with respect to OS data, it should still be concerned with
> respect to data produced by third parties that continue to use the licence.
> The OS OpenData Licence is not "dead" if local authorities and other PSMA
> members consider that it still applies to their data. While it is likely
> most, if not all, local authorities will follow OS's transition to OGL, OS
> cannot speak for them or their IP interests in the meantime. Robert
> (Whittaker) is correct.
> Owen
> On 23 February 2015 at 16:07, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Robert wrote:
>> >I think that would be jumping the gun slightly. What I understand from
>> >OS's answer to me, is that previously released datasets will remain
>> >under the OS-ODL, and there is no automatic retrospective change of
>> >the licence.
>> >
>> I think you are overly risk averse in this case and it could limit
>> interesting uses of this data. The risk all along was that the OS could
>> take offence to how we are using the data (the local authorities we forced
>> to use the OS OpenData licence when they just wanted to make the data
>> available as open). Yeah of course the OS cannot retrospectively change the
>> licence of things released in the past but the fact that they have removed
>> the licence text from their website and put a url redirect to the OGL
>> suggests to me that the OS OpenData licence is dead. The risk is gone so
>> lets not pretend otherwise as it will just send a negative message to our
>> community.
>> In time we can and should ask each LA to use the new licence but this
>> shouldn't stop anyone from using the data now.
>> Rob
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