[Talk-GB] UK Capter Community Interest Statement Form CIC36

Rob Nickerson rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com
Tue Apr 26 20:48:44 UTC 2016


You're right. I just checked Company Act 2006 and general meetings are
required to have at least 14 days notice. So we can't change much.

That's a shame but it is what it is. So given that the AoA won't be
reflective of how we hope to operate I'd suggest keeping them as simple as
possible (so sticking to the template where possible and not including
working overhead that we don't need). Hopefully this way we'll never have
to look at the thing and can just get on with what we want - an active
membership :-D


On 26 April 2016 at 21:01, Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Rob
> Want an open constitution of the kind you want? Go for unincorporated
> society - you can fashion it any way you want.
> Want an incorporated limited company? There's a mountain of legislation
> demanding structure  you are mandated to have in your constitution - your
> room for manouevre in the AoA is limited.
> That's our dilemma and we will end up with a compromise between the two
> that satisfies no-one completely but will be workable.
> Regards
> Brian
> On 25 April 2016 at 22:34, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Thanks Brian,
>> The CIC form makes the vision much clearer (unlike the AoA which is
>> always going to be a legalise-esque dull document). It's a good reminder of
>> why we are doing this :-)
>> The first activity listed touches on "provid[ing] a mechanism for
>> developing as a community rather than as disparate, scattered individual".
>> This follows on from my recent comments on the AoA and the contrast I drew
>> between the template AoA and the Constitution of the (Unincorporated
>> Association) WM-ODUG. That constitution set out how decision making works
>> amongst the members which is one element of the activities aim to develop a
>> community. It's very different from the current proposed AoA for
>> OpenStreetMap United Kingdom.
>> Today we have the opportunity to make the AoA more about our desired way
>> of working, and not just the legal text we refer to when something goes
>> wrong. In fact one could argue that if the AoA don't match our desired way
>> of working (the AoA is the Constitution after all) then something has "gone
>> wrong" before we even start.
>> As always I look forward to hearing the views of others on this matter.
>> *Rob*
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