[Talk-GB] OSMSchools - Tagging question Outdoor Education Centre

SK53 sk53.osm at gmail.com
Thu Jan 21 12:47:42 UTC 2016


A quick check on taginfo only directed me to one Outward Bound centre (that
in Eskdale Green), and that is just tagged as a building. They have 6
centres. Another organisation rather different in scope is the Field
Studies Council with around 12 centres. Provision by LEA is declining (the
Castleton centre is now a Youth Hostel), but better off schools will often
have their own dedicated centre. Plas-y-Brenin
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374805099#map=18/53.10222/-3.91711>,
which is more directly sport oriented, is only mapped as buildings..

These are fairly distinct institutions with a mix of education & leisure
objectives: with their primary role being education (certainly from a
financial perspective & the need to have instructors DBS (CRB) checked). If
we had a widely used top-level education key, I'd use that, but as most, if
not all, education-related places use the amenity key, that's where I'd
start. So I'd suggest something like amenity=outdoor_education_centre or
amenity=outdoor_learning_centre. Sub-tagging could be used to distinguish
those with a bent towards physical activities versus those which do field
study.

Plas-y-Brenin does fit the leisure=sports_centre suggested by DanS.

There must be at least a hundred, if not several hundred such facilities in
the UK. I'm aware of similar places in many alpine villages in the Swiss
Alps (e.g., a " Ferien- und Schulungszentrum" near Ilanz), and passed
the "Maison
des Salines" <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/94079741> in Brittany,
shortly after SotM-France. ( The latter appears to be used as a Colonie des
Vacances, so I tagged this as leisure=holiday_camp.). Therefore I would
think there are good reasons not to try & coerce these places into an
existing tagging scheme.

In addition to ones providing accommodation & classroom facilites, many
wildlife trusts, and similar bodies, have smaller centres for non
residential courses. Ones I know well are: Attenborough Nature Centre, Idle
Valley Rural Learning Centre
<http://www.nnc.ac.uk/idle-valley-rural-learning-centre>, and the Wyre
Forest Discovery Centre <http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/infd-6frd7h>.
Many of these will share a building with a cafe and shop and perhaps other
facilities.

On a closing note, one of my favourite such places at Gibraltar Point,
which I stayed at as recently as November 2012, was wrecked by a storm
surge in 2013 <http://www.lincstrust.org.uk/gibraltar-point-education>.

Jerry

On 21 January 2016 at 08:10, Dan S <danstowell+osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't have a good answer, but I had a similar problem when trying to
> tag a "Go Ape" outdoor centre last year. If you search for "Go Ape"
> you find many different taggings around the country, including:
>
> leisure=sports_centre
> tourism=attraction
> tourism=theme_park
> leisure=high_ropes_course
> leisure=playground
>
> Possibly one of the top three is suitable for this? I'd like to hear
> what other people think.
>
> Best
> Dan
>
> 2016-01-20 23:17 GMT+00:00  <alasdair at dunakin.me.uk>:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > thanks for the responses to my last question.
> >
> > I'm now trying to correct the tagging for an Outdoor Education Centre. It
> > has been tagged (understandably in my point of view) as amenity=school
> but
> > obviously isn't a school. So the question is, what should it be tagged
> as?
> > I've looked through the wiki and can't see anything relevant but I'm
> aware
> > that the knowledge in this group sometimes surpasses that of the wiki.
> >
> > The centre in question is Lagganlia http://www.lagganlia.com/ near
> Aviemore
> > in the Highlands which is owned by City of Edinburgh. I fondly remember
> > going there 3 or 4 times for Geography field trips and school skiing
> weeks
> > 20 years ago.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> > Al.
> >
> >
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