[Talk-GB] Admin Boundaries in Northern Ireland

Killyfole and District Development Association webmaster at killyfole.org.uk
Wed Jan 27 11:50:04 UTC 2016

Hi Walter,

We don't actually have defined cities like in other parts of the world. In 
fact there are only 5 which are classed as cities.  They are Armagh, Belfast, 
Derry/Londonderry, Lisburn and Newry.

Historically, each city had its own council. But recently the councils have 
been merged into what we called super councils.   For example the new super-
council covering Armagh City, now covers a huge area and is called "Armagh 
City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council"  the only completely intact 
council being Belfast City Council.

The boundaries are defined by the OSNI/LPS and up until a few months ago all 
their data was Crown copyright.  They have started to release some data under 
an Open Government Licence but this is a slow, painful process!  The Royal 
Mail also own the addresses and postcodes here and while they have been forced 
to "open" the postcode in other parts of the UK, they still refuse to do it 
here.  This makes all data sources we would need to plot city boundaries are 
copyrighted by various organisations.

I hope this explains the situation here in "Norn Iron"

Clive (KDDA)

On Wednesday 27 January 2016 11:52:12 Walter Nordmann wrote:
> thx, Colin.
> But it can't be ok that there are no city boundaries in N-I any more.
> Ok, counties may be historic now, but Cities?
> see: https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=belfast%2C ireland
> only result is a place-node. OMG
> Regards
> walter
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