[Talk-GB] Fire Roads (Leeds, Nottingham, etc)

SK53 sk53.osm at gmail.com
Fri Feb 3 13:54:29 UTC 2017


I'd think that the rows of raised-textured paving can be mapped as a
barrier, with access=emergency too.

I'm glad that the photos I added to the wiki confirm my memory that "fire
path" is the word used on the signs. Was wondering where I got it from.

Cheers,

Jerry

On 3 February 2017 at 12:20, Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Jerry. I thought the Nottingham features would get your attention
> :)
>
> I'm surprised I missed the Fire Path page on the Wiki, but thanks for the
> confirmation that fire_path=yes is the way to go.
>
> As for the textured paving, I'm not sure anything surface=
> or traffic_calming= matches it, so I'll not tag it.
>
> (Out of interest, this Aberdeen one used to be a Fire Path, but the
> emergency/access tags have not been updated accordingly: https://www.
> openstreetmap.org/way/124065409)
>
> Regards,
> *Paul*
>
>
>
> On 3 February 2017 at 11:17, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like a documented on the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org
>> /wiki/Fire_Path
>>
>> On 3 February 2017 at 11:15, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The tag that I have used for such things is fire_path=yes.
>>>
>>> There are 4 uses of the tag in Nottingham and 2 in Aberdeen. There are
>>> several others not tagged (including the two recent ones you mention), for
>>> instance this one <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/43328389> where
>>> Suez Street joins North Gate outside Port Said Villas (I wonder when these
>>> streets were built).
>>>
>>> The structures involved may be as illustrated by Paul. The older
>>> Nottingham ones tend to have a zone of the wavy block paving which is
>>> 10-15ft long and thus not a normal road in any sense. Other fire paths I've
>>> seen involve two locked boom gates.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> On 2 February 2017 at 22:20, Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Fire roads are an uncommon sight in the UK. They're sometimes signed as
>>>> "fire lanes," but they're nothing to do with the designation in the US (and
>>>> elsewhere) which is a parking restriction: https://wiki.open
>>>> streetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane and we're also not talking about
>>>> the wide tracks in managed forests that act as a firebreak.
>>>>
>>>> I mean restricted highways like this one:
>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/240007969 (whose source links to
>>>> photo evidence).
>>>>
>>>> How do we map these? I assume service=emergency_access?
>>>>
>>>> Also, how is the embedded roughly-textured paving in that photo best
>>>> represented?
>>>>
>>>> There are some similar ones in Nottingham, notably at Addington Road
>>>> and Wimbourne Road there, though they're not mapped as such.
>>>>
>>>> Your advice and guidance gratefully received.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> *Paul*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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