[Talk-GB] Fire Roads (Leeds, Nottingham, etc)

[Paul Berry]

Thanks again. I'll tag the textured paving as a barrier.

Also, in the Leeds example I've given, cycling is not permitted because
there is a No Entry sign at each end of the path. This is something that is
also picked up on here:
http://www.andypreece.co.uk/cycling/fac_leverndale.php

Further browsing has revealed Fire Paths are actually fairly common in the
Glasgow area: https://www.cyclestreets.net/photomap/tags/firepath

You learn something new every day.

Regards,
*Paul*

On 3 February 2017 at 13:54, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd think that the rows of raised-textured paving can be mapped as a
> barrier, with access=emergency too.
>
> I'm glad that the photos I added to the wiki confirm my memory that "fire
> path" is the word used on the signs. Was wondering where I got it from.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jerry
>
> On 3 February 2017 at 12:20, Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Jerry. I thought the Nottingham features would get your attention
>> :)
>>
>> I'm surprised I missed the Fire Path page on the Wiki, but thanks for the
>> confirmation that fire_path=yes is the way to go.
>>
>> As for the textured paving, I'm not sure anything surface=
>> or traffic_calming= matches it, so I'll not tag it.
>>
>> (Out of interest, this Aberdeen one used to be a Fire Path, but the
>> emergency/access tags have not been updated accordingly:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/124065409)
>>
>> Regards,
>> *Paul*
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 February 2017 at 11:17, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a documented on the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org
>>> /wiki/Fire_Path
>>>
>>> On 3 February 2017 at 11:15, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The tag that I have used for such things is fire_path=yes.
>>>>
>>>> There are 4 uses of the tag in Nottingham and 2 in Aberdeen. There are
>>>> several others not tagged (including the two recent ones you mention), for
>>>> instance this one <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/43328389> where
>>>> Suez Street joins North Gate outside Port Said Villas (I wonder when these
>>>> streets were built).
>>>>
>>>> The structures involved may be as illustrated by Paul. The older
>>>> Nottingham ones tend to have a zone of the wavy block paving which is
>>>> 10-15ft long and thus not a normal road in any sense. Other fire paths I've
>>>> seen involve two locked boom gates.
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>>>>
>>>> On 2 February 2017 at 22:20, Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Fire roads are an uncommon sight in the UK. They're sometimes signed
>>>>> as "fire lanes," but they're nothing to do with the designation in the US
>>>>> (and elsewhere) which is a parking restriction: https://wiki.open
>>>>> streetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane and we're also not talking about
>>>>> the wide tracks in managed forests that act as a firebreak.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean restricted highways like this one:
>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/240007969 (whose source links to
>>>>> photo evidence).
>>>>>
>>>>> How do we map these? I assume service=emergency_access?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, how is the embedded roughly-textured paving in that photo best
>>>>> represented?
>>>>>
>>>>> There are some similar ones in Nottingham, notably at Addington Road
>>>>> and Wimbourne Road there, though they're not mapped as such.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your advice and guidance gratefully received.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> *Paul*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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