[Talk-GB] Propose automated edit to update NAPTAN data in the west mids

[Stuart Reynolds]

Hi Brian,

If you are updating the data in OSM from NaPTAN, then I agree that this is long overdue.

For the benefit of others, can I just mention some specific stop point types that are in NaPTAN that editors may be unfamiliar with (and which I think have caused some confusion in the past):


  *   CUS are Custom and Practice stops. Typically ends of farm roads, lay-bys, etc where there is no physical marked stop. Given a need to have stopping points on the right side of the road, these are also used for the “other side of the road” stop where there is a pole marked “buses stop both sides”
  *   HAR are virtual stops denoting a nominal point in a hail and ride section. Hail and Ride is a bit cumbersome, but there is a virtual stop and it is linked to a start coordinate for the hail and ride section and an end coordinate. These aren’t supposed to be long. Typically there will need to be one in each direction (as the start and end points are reversed).

Also, there is often some confusion about what name goes into which fields - people will insist on compounding names, for example, because that’s what their consuming system wants, rather than getting the consumer to read the data properly. But that’s too much to go into here, and if reviewing the names is in scope then I would be happy to offer to help. One of my other “hats" is as the Public Transport Data Standards Advisor / Expert for DfT, which includes advising on NAPTAN.

Regards,
Stuart Reynolds
for traveline south east & anglia



On 3 Feb 2017, at 17:52, Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com<mailto:bprangle at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone

We have an opportunity to work with the regional transport authority TfWM to update this data which is 8 years old and partially edited by OSM users. They have assigned 2 developers to work on this and I'm spending a half day each week working with them.

We've agreed and discussed this in our mappa mercia group and also contacted a prolific local public transport OSM editor who's not part of  our group.

In line with the automated edits policy there's a wikipage<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edit_West_Midlands_NAPTAN_data> with full details

Comments welcome as this exercise might be useful elswhere as the state of NAPTAN data will be in a similar state

regards

Brian
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