[Talk-GB] Propose automated edit to update NAPTAN data in the west mids

[Brian Prangle]

Good to have you involved Stuart. Locally we're aware of CUS and HAR bus
stop types.

We have elaborated  a local schema for names which is detailed on the
wikipage
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edit_West_Midlands_NAPTAN_data#Process_Overview>

This suits us and TfWM but might not be to everyone else's liking

Basically:
Interchanges: stop ref (not sure of the NaPTAN nomenclature- but it has the
format SN5 , BK3  etc.)
Non-interchanges  Street Name/CommonName
Bus Stations: Stand X

Regards

Brian


On 3 February 2017 at 18:29, Stuart Reynolds <
stuart at travelinesoutheast.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> If you are updating the data in OSM from NaPTAN, then I agree that this is
> long overdue.
>
> For the benefit of others, can I just mention some specific stop point
> types that are in NaPTAN that editors may be unfamiliar with (and which I
> think have caused some confusion in the past):
>
>
>    - CUS are Custom and Practice stops. Typically ends of farm roads,
>    lay-bys, etc where there is no physical marked stop. Given a need to have
>    stopping points on the right side of the road, these are also used for the
>    “other side of the road” stop where there is a pole marked “buses stop both
>    sides”
>    - HAR are virtual stops denoting a nominal point in a hail and ride
>    section. Hail and Ride is a bit cumbersome, but there is a virtual stop and
>    it is linked to a start coordinate for the hail and ride section and an end
>    coordinate. These aren’t supposed to be long. Typically there will need to
>    be one in each direction (as the start and end points are reversed).
>
>
> Also, there is often some confusion about what name goes into which fields
> - people will insist on compounding names, for example, because that’s what
> their consuming system wants, rather than getting the consumer to read the
> data properly. But that’s too much to go into here, and if reviewing the
> names is in scope then I would be happy to offer to help. One of my other
> “hats" is as the Public Transport Data Standards Advisor / Expert for DfT,
> which includes advising on NAPTAN.
>
> Regards,
> Stuart Reynolds
> for traveline south east & anglia
>
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2017, at 17:52, Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> We have an opportunity to work with the regional transport authority TfWM
> to update this data which is 8 years old and partially edited by OSM users.
> They have assigned 2 developers to work on this and I'm spending a half day
> each week working with them.
>
> We've agreed and discussed this in our mappa mercia group and also
> contacted a prolific local public transport OSM editor who's not part of
> our group.
>
> In line with the automated edits policy there's a wikipage
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edit_West_Midlands_NAPTAN_data>
> with full details
>
> Comments welcome as this exercise might be useful elswhere as the state of
> NAPTAN data will be in a similar state
>
> regards
>
> Brian
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