[Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Summer 2017 July-Sept

Paul Berry pmberry2007 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 11 12:02:27 UTC 2017


Similarly, there is debate as to whether the main concourse bridge at
Sheffield station is a PRoW (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22979084).
This is partly why there are no automated ticket barriers at Sheffield
(yet).

Regards,
*Paul*

On 11 July 2017 at 12:16, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd look to ask some of the people involved in the Transilien project in
> France, perhaps Florian Lainez as he's an ex Mappa Mercian. Judging by
> taginfo <http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qk0> they use
> railway=train_station_entrance (so much for British english in tags),
> probably in conjunction with entrance=*.
>
> SNCF even have an internal app called mapmygare for adding station
> details: there is some hope that they may open-source it.
>
> A couple of other points about station entrances:
>
>    - (Obvious) accessibility info is useful
>    - ticket barriers (presence or not) where these are close to or part
>    of the entrance
>    - opening hours for side entrances (& possibly for ticket barriers
>    too, suburban stations often leave them open after staff have finished work)
>    - presence of an intercom (e.g., on E-side of Horsham station) to get
>    someone to let you through the barrier
>    - public rights of way through stations (i.e., notional places on
>    stations where you don't need a ticket). Paul Sladen defended the one
>    <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/165120168> at Nottingham station.
>    Here I think 'duck' tagging is the way to proceed, so entrances from the
>    street should be tagged not tops of stairs from the PRoW.
>
> Please also count steps on bridges/subways etc: typically they are 10, 12
> or 16 treads to a flight. From personal experience the length a flight is
> as important as the total number of steps: one can take a breather at the
> end of each flight. So 24 steps in one run are a completely different
> matter from 2 flights of 12.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jerry
>
> Jerry
>
> On 11 July 2017 at 07:50, Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please be adding your snippets of knowledges, tag details, and activity
>> descriptions to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2017_Q3_Project:_B
>> us_Route_Relations_%26_Station_Entrances so that the less initiated can
>> pick a thing to do.
>>
>> Regards,
>>             Jez
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 at 23:35 Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11-Jul-17 03:03 AM, Andy Townsend wrote:
>>> > On 10/07/2017 14:26, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
>>> >> I have also come across several styles of station tagging, even in my
>>> >> local (single line) area.
>>> >
>>> > What'd be really useful, actually, would someone pointing at a good
>>> > "example station" in an OSM diary entry or similar and explain how the
>>> > various bits are tagged (without getting into the holy wars about
>>> > public transport v1 and v2 route tagging, if possible).
>>>
>>> +1. Even a reasonable example where a 'good' example cannot be found.
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