[Talk-GB] [Osmf-talk] Live OSM discussion in ~45 minutes (7.30pm UK time)

[Simon Poole]

Am 27.07.2017 um 12:02 schrieb Ilya Zverev:
> I do not have numbers for how many people in OSM are interested in which facilities. If I had, that would be a great research subject, or at least a topic for an interesting SotM presentation.
>
> This sub-thread, of course, is an extra illustration to the issues in our community. Only numbers matter, samples are good only if they represent the bias in our community, no issues here, move along.
Well I would simply rather work on addressing real issues than spending
time on invented ones. That kind of implies that you need facts, not
fairy tales.

Low gender diversity among OSM contributors is reasonably well
established, if it actually biases what is and how it is mapped, is not
(that for example would be a good research topic).

And yes it is undoubtedly true that having a childcare preset in JOSM
(as the only editor with larger use without one) would be nice, but that
is the decision of a single developer not a bias of the whole community
(naturally most JOSM users are capable of typing the tag in without a
preset in any case). The delineation issues are naturally not resolved
by having a preset, that is however a problem of the subject matter, not
a question of lack of interest.

Simon
 
>
> Ilya
>
>> 27 июля 2017 г., в 10:57, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> написал(а):
>>
>> You claimed that a minority of OSM contributors were interested in
>> childcare facilities and, implied that a majority is interested in
>> brothels.
>>
>> Again: numbers please.
>>
>> PS: you do illustrate an interesting point wrt the research we are
>> discussing here, one would expect an unbiased sample of OSM contributors
>> of size 15 to contain zero non-male and zero HOT members obviously the
>> composition of the interviewees was rather different.
>>
>>
>> Am 27.07.2017 um 08:37 schrieb Ilya Zverev:
>>> On SotM 2016 8 of 45 talks (18%) were given by women. Srravya C in her
>>> talk at that SotM shows that only 7% posts in talk@ were posted by
>>> women, and just around 2% — in the tagging@ mailing list. She gives a
>>> few good ideas about increasing the participation of women, by the way:
>>>
>>> http://2016.stateofthemap.org/2016/is-she-a-part-of-your-community/
>>>
>>> As a member of the Russian community, I can confirm we have ZERO
>>> active female members.
>>>
>>> Ilya
>>>
>>> 27.07.2017 03:14, Simon Poole пишет:
>>>>
>>>> On 26.07.2017 23:58, Ilya Zverev wrote:
>>>>> ........
>>>>> but these people are a minority in OSM,
>>>> Numbers please.
>>>>
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