[Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

[Colin Smale]

Are these additional services legally obliged, or are they offered as a
result of a commercial agreement? 

Perhaps designation=uk_post_office may be a useful addition to indicate
that the legally-obliged services are available at this location. Some
services are only available at what used to be called "Crown Post
Offices", so designation=uk_crown_post_office could be used here. 

The other stuff, like currency exchange, is almost certainly a
commercial agreement, with no obligation on a particular post office to
offer this service. In this case I would add currency_exchange=yes for
example, so one can see where it is, and is not, available. 

This would separate the legally required functions (including buying a
stamp etc) from the "options". 

Colin

On 2018-05-03 12:14, Philip Barnes wrote:

> I would avoid using amenity=post_office for anything other than a proper post office.
> 
> The term post office is much more than a place to send parcels or letters.
> 
> In the UK a post office offers
> Banking services
> I can tax my car
> I can apply for a passport
> I can collect my pension
> Exchange currency 
> Probably lots of other things that I've not thought of. 
> 
> Whilst post depot is useful for collecting things that an individual has ordered, sending stuff by courier is a business service. DHL will not be interested in sending my Christmas cards and certainly not for the price Royal mail charges. 
> 
> Phil (trigpoint) 
> 
> On 3 May 2018 10:45:57 BST, Michael Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz> wrote: 
> 
> At the risk of being pedantic, but would a "network" tag, similar to bus routes, not be more appropriate? 
> 
> Here in Sweden, the post office system is now Post Nord, network=Post Nord, but post offices are frequently inside and operated by supermarkets, e.g. operator=ICA. These outlets often handle DHL and other services that might also be considered as postal networks, network=Post Nord;DHL 
> 
> Mike 
> On 2018-05-03 11:15, Brian Prangle wrote: 
> 
> Hi Robert
> If an operator tag is added to post_office tags then your comparison tool would be OK
> Regards
> Brian 
> 
> On 3 May 2018 at 10:08, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <robert.whittaker+osm at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2 May 2018 at 19:08, David Woolley <forums at david-woolley.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 02/05/18 18:52, ael wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am confused:-)  How should a Royal mail local delivery office be
>>> tagged? It seems that it is not amenity=post_office. I notice that
>>> I have used post_depot once some time ago, but that doesn't seem to be
>>> in the wiki (or in the presets for josm). Yet I am sure that I got it
>>> from somewhere. Not that it seems very natural.
>> 
>> I'm fairly sure this came up a couple of months ago and the answer was
>> amenity=post_depot; operator=Royal Mail.  It's not, in principle, different
>> from Hermes or TNT.
> 
> That's certainly what I'd use. I think there's a good case for tagging
> customer-facing shop-like outlets of courier firms as
> amenity=post_office since they're places from which you can send
> stuff. But for the large warehouse-style sorting/distribution centres
> I think something else is needed. amenity=post_depot seems a good
> choice to me. It has over 400 uses worldwide, of which over 300 are in
> the UK.
> 
> The legitimate use of amenity=post_office for non-Post Office Ltd
> branches creates a slight issue for my comparison tool. I've got some
> heuristics to account for some sets of objects based on name,
> operator, and brand tagging. See:
> http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postoffice/osm-unmatched.html#non-pol [1]
> 
> Robert.
> 
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