[Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds
Paul Berry
pmberry2007 at gmail.com
Wed May 13 11:28:29 UTC 2020
Not sure about the tagging/proposal politics but since there are a small
number of showgrounds, is there anything to stop a UK-specific page being
set up on the Wiki for visibility? Then if anyone wants to harmonise the
tags they can use that as a guide to do so.
There's nothing to say we can't tag in any way we want—and again for this
small collection of entities which are clearly all the same fundamental
object—it's only if we want people to be consistent, or to adopt our tags,
that we would need to go through the process of proposed tag adoption.
Regards,
*Paul*
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 10:10, nathan case <nathancase at outlook.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just to drag this back up - I encountered an unmapped showground
> (Chipping, Lancashire) whilst adding PROWs and don't know the best way to
> tag. It appears to hold a several large shows each year (well presumably
> not this year!) but doesn't appear to be a recreational site.
>
> I found this abandoned proposal for amenity=show_grounds:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/show_grounds It's a
> shame it never got traction as it might enable us to come to some consensus
> on these sites. Can an abandoned proposal be re-opened or does it have to
> be re-proposed?
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com>
> Sent: 25 February 2020 00:23
> To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds
>
> Since I was going through these anyway to see what ought to be rendered at
> map.atownsend.org.uk, I thought I might as well list them here too. These
> are things "tagged a bit like showgrounds, excluding bus stops and car
> parks", sorted by one of the main tags.
>
> I suspect that the ones tagged just "place", "landuse=grass" or
> "tourism=attraction" only probably need some other tag to say "this is a
> showground". "events_venue" might be a misunderstanding of what that tag
> was for. "recreation_ground" may be correct in some cases but I suspect
> isn't in many others. "park" I'd be similarly surprised if it was often
> correct. In most or all cases it probably needs a local to make the call,
> though...
>
> place:
>
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2382298440
> name Mannsfield Showground
> place locality
> source OS OpenData StreetView
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3416147963
> name Great Harwood Showground
> place neighbourhood
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4347790541
> addr:postcode BS37 8QZ
> addr:street Westerleigh Road
> name The Windmill Fisheries Showground place locality
>
>
> events_venue only:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5849512782
> alt_name Royal Cornwall Event Centre amenity events_venue name
> Royal Cornwall Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6938439833
> amenity events_venue
> name Hertfordshire County Showground operator Hertfordshire
> Country Council
>
>
> tourism=attraction only:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/283445694
> name Devon County Showground
> tourism attraction
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/91401877
> name Kent Showground
> source Bing
> tourism attraction
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/40942963
> barrier fence
> name Norfolk Showground
> tourism attraction
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/316706558
> name Great Yorkshire Showground
> tourism attraction
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/104155888
> barrier fence
> name Royal Bath and West of England Showground tourism attraction
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/239487854
> name Hennock Showground
> tourism attraction
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/178396540
> addr:city Newark
> addr:postcode NG24 2NY
> addr:street Lincoln Road
> alt_name Newark Show Ground
> name Newark Showground
> operator Newark & Nottinghamshire Agricultural Society phone +44
> 1636 705796 tourism attraction website
> http://www.newarkshowground.com/ wikidata Q15262122
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/274093728
> name Lincolnshire Showground
> tourism attraction
>
>
> recreation_ground only:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/603746353
> alt_name Briscwm Fields
> description Normally farmland, Used to hold events such as the
> Cardigan County Agricultural Show.
> landuse recreation_ground
> name Cardigan County Showground
> note Located from information on Coflein.
> phone +44 1545 570501
> recreation_ground showground
> website https://cardigancountyshow.org.uk/
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34993687
> landuse recreation_ground
> name Mirfield Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/89151502
> addr:city Peterborough
> addr:housename Peterborough Arena
> addr:postcode PE2 6XE
> addr:street East of England Showground landuse recreation_ground
> name East of England Showground phone +44 1733 363500 website
> http://www.peterborougharena.com wheelchair yes
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/415636494
> leisure recreation_ground
> name Christow Playing Fields and Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4587165
> leisure recreation_ground
> name Essex Showground
> source approximate
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/30813084
> leisure recreation_ground
> name North Somerset Showground
> tourism attraction
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/547075306
> addr:postcode LE15 7TW
> addr:street Burley Park Way
> landuse recreation_ground
> name Rutland Showground
> note The new county showground site.
> source EsriWorldImagery
> website https://www.rutlandshowground.com/
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/588128321
> leisure recreation_ground
> name Strithians Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26748908
> landuse recreation_ground
> name Penistone Show Ground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/234890106
> landuse recreation_ground
> name Pateley Bridge Show Ground
>
>
> landuse=grass:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/487690483
> landuse grass
> name Midsuffolk Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/741042350
> landuse grass
> name Hertfordshire Country Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/103153435
> landuse grass
> name Border Union Showground
> note Showground
> old_name Bridge-end Haugh
> operator Border Union Agricultural Society
>
> and associated with that is:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/137564594
> name Border Union Showground Exhibition Centre tourism attraction
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/100122713
> access restricted
> fee yes
> landuse grass
> name Ingliston Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/530740455
> landuse grass
> name Royal Isle of Wight Agricultural Society County Show Ground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28182679
> landuse grass
> name Orsett Show Ground
> source Yahoo
>
>
> landuse=farmyard:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/510512248
> landuse farmyard
> name Edenbridge and Oxted Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/406051035
> landuse farmyard
> leisure sports_centre
> name Felbridge Showground
> sport equestrian
>
>
> leisure=park:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/161362655
> leisure park
> name Agricultural Showground
> note exhibition ground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/98206321
> leisure park
> name Staffordshire County Showground source Bing
>
>
> Other tags:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/65754693
> landuse village_green
> leisure common
> name Cranleigh Showground
> source GPS,knowledge
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/156074625
> addr:postcode CO7 7QL
> amenity show_ground
> landuse recreation_ground
> name Ardleigh Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/231760526
> amenity show_grounds
> note Used for Ashover Show
> source View from N;Bing;local_knowledge
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/558087836
> amenity exhibition_centre
> landuse recreation_ground
> name Grasmere Showground
> operator Grasmere Sports Committee
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/118043186
> amenity show_grounds
> landuse grass
> name Turnpike Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5883047051
> ground showground
> landuse recreation_ground
> name Winterton Showground
> wheelchair limited
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/511751765
> leisure recreation_ground
> name Hickstead Showground
> sport equestrian
> surface grass
> (I guess not primarily known as an agricultural showground)
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/169234258
> landuse meadow
> name RJA&HS Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/48473181
> amenity showground
> area yes
> landuse grass
> name West Mids Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/72520259
> leisure sports_centre
> name The Dorset Showground
> source local_knowledge
> sport equestrian
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26160926
> alt_name South of England Showground amenity events_centre leisure
> showground name Ardingly Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/626517837
> addr:city Thatcham
> addr:postcode RG18 9QZ
> addr:street Priors Court Road
> alt_name Newbury Showground
> leisure recreation_ground
> name Newbury Show Ground
> operator Newbury & District Agricultural Society recreation_ground
> showground tourism attraction
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/639908113
> amenity showground
> name Driffield Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/67375462
> amenity showground
> landuse grass
> name Royal Cheshire Show Ground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/93280648
> amenity festival_grounds
> name Royal Welsh Agricultural Society Showground
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/343689161
> amenity show_grounds
> name Manby Showground
> note now closed
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/35432806
> amenity showground
> landuse grass
> name Three Counties Showground
> note car parks across road to south may also belong to showground?
> source local_knowledge
>
> and finally, untagged as a showground:
>
> Bakewell
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.2114/-1.6674
>
> (there are more of these - look for bus stops tagged "showground" to find
> them!)
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
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