[Talk-GB] Hanway Street - London - highway=residential or highway=service

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In my view this is a highway=unclassified as originally mapped. It has
pavements (sidewalks) and parking restrictions (yellow lines) as well as
business premises fronting onto the street. Each of these on their own
would suggest unclassified. (Relatively few streets in central London will
be residential).

A useful guide
<https://os.openstreetmap.org/#zoom=17&lat=51.517883&lon=-0.12941> is the
OS StreetView layer on os.openstreetmap.org where typically service roads
are shown in grey without a casing. Note that mews which are shown on OS
StreetView as service are usually mapped as residential.

I've uploaded
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Scarborough_rear_access_service_road.JPG>
a classic case from the North of England of a service road which could be
tagged as service alley (although it isn't
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/58829041>, possibly because the usage
was not well established back in 2009 when I mapped it). As others have
said these are extremely common in certain types of housing (although in
Greater Manchester & Merseyside many are now gated to limit access to
residents. This particular example is in the list of streets maintained at
public expense for North Yorkshire council (which is suggested by the
parking restriction signs).

I'll see if I can find some other images of service roads in the UK.

Jerry

On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 06:15, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB <
talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:service%3Dalley has ongoing
> topic of what
> qualifies as highway=residential and what qualifies as highway=service
> service=alley
>
> Hanway Street was given as highway=service example, then removed as an
> example
> - with following photo
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Hanway_Street_-_London.JPG
>
> To me it looks like a narrow highway=residential but right now it is
> mapped as
> highway=service, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233334347
> (and was mapped as such for basically all its existence).
>
> Photo looks like something that I would definitely consider as narrow
> highway=residential,
> and has tagged such roads in my city as highway=residential + lanes=1
>
> What is your opinion? Is it highway=service service=alley or narrow
> highway=residential?
> Should it be changed in OSM?
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