[Talk-GB] Public Rights of Way mapping guidance for Wiki
Jon Pennycook
jon.pennycook at gmail.com
Thu Jan 7 11:22:58 UTC 2021
Hello Jerry.
I agree. I rarely want to know what the Definitive Map says. I mostly just
want to plan a route.
On earlier points - I like the idea of tagging access on barriers, although
I almost never do it myself. For diversions or other temporary things, we
need tagging that can be picked up by some kind of validator for a
follow-up check.
Jom
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, 10:56 SK53, <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this idea ignores a basic need to keep contributing to OSM simple
> for people who do not suffer from OCDS. OSM is not a repository of legal
> information the map data is ultimately a practical tool to enable people to
> do things. The number of people who wish to document discrepancies between
> the definitive map/statement and what is on the ground is vastly smaller
> than those who merely wish to use OSM to help them find a walk & navigate
> along it.
>
> We'd do well not to lose sight of this.
>
> Jerry
>
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 09:28, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <
> robert.whittaker+osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 09:07, Nick Whitelegg via Talk-GB
>> <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>> > My own personal view is that the 'on the ground route' is what counts,
>> if it has been officially signed by the council. This means that it's the
>> de-facto route, the one the council is recommending you use, and the one
>> which is is used practically.
>>
>> I disagree. The legal route is what is shown on the Definitive Map.
>> There is a legal process that can be gone through to change this, but
>> the council cannot just unilaterally decide to alter the route.
>> Putting up official signage does not (itself) divert or create a Right
>> of Way. Also, I've certainly come across cases where land-owners have
>> adjusted the official waymarks themselves in order to discourage
>> people from using the legal route. So I'd very much prefer to see both
>> routes marked in OSM. Doing this also makes a record of any
>> discrepancies (which could be useful for Rights of Way campaigners)
>> and allows for better automated checks between OSM data and the
>> council GIS data.
>>
>> Robert.
>>
>>
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