[Talk-GB] English Vineyards

[Clifford Snow]

I was amazed at how much was already mapped. My faulty assumption was there
weren't any real vineyards but that just shows how little I know!

We have a number of vineyards in my state. We basically have two climates
here - the west side of the Cascade Mountain Rain which is wet and cool and
the east side which is dry and hot. Most of the vineyards are on the east
side. I just booked a night in Prosser, WA to investigate some of the
better vineyards in the state.

Clifford


On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 12:11 PM SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought I'd see if using a clustering approach might give a better
> handle on how many we have mapped in reality. I clustered centroids using
> DBscan clustering with a distance of 1km (some parcels are quite big) and
> keeping isolated parcels as a cluster. I then split any clusters by name
> and/or operator. This yields about 350 distinct entities, but many parcels
> have no name & these are assigned separately, so this is still an
> overestimate. The basic conclusion is that a name or operator tag on each
> vineyard area would be useful, but it also means there are plenty more to
> find.
>
> Jerry
>
> PS. centroid data converted to OSGB; ST_ClusterDBScan(geom, 1000,1) and
> then a standard GROUP BY on name and cluster id/
>
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 22:18, Chris Hodges <chris at c-hodges.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> As I passed Sugarloaf vineyard near Abergavenny on Sunday, I had a look.
>> That's 5 shapes for one business (here's one:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/487791436 ) which is probably a
>> reasonable picture of the layout.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 16/02/2022 20:49, SK53 wrote:
>>
>> The website <https://www.winegb.co.uk/vineyards/> of the winegrowers
>> association reckons there are about 800. I think we have around 600
>> polygons mapped which will be rather more than the number of vineyards
>> (e.g., round Tillington
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/50.9915/-0.6390> there are two
>> vineyards each with several distinct parcels of land, one of them Nyetimber
>> has vineyards elsewhere too). When I last looked, about 4 years ago, I
>> think there were 600 vineyards so many will be very new, small & hard to
>> spot on aerial imagery.
>>
>> I noticed one near Whitland earlier in the week & in searching for it's
>> name have found 2 more to add in the same area (Hebron & Jabajak), so we
>> now have around 20 mapped in Wales. All three seem to be producing
>> sparkling wine.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 20:04, Ian Caldwell via Talk-GB <
>> talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>
>>> overpass turbo (http://overpass-turbo.eu/)  with landuse=vinyard finds
>>> quite a lot.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 19:32, Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Clifford,
>>>>
>>>> Interesting. There's at least two I know of in Yorkshire: one already
>>>> mapped in Holmfirth (adding an extra dimension to "Last of the Summer Wine
>>>> Country") and another in Westow, which I've only just added. The latter is
>>>> apparently the most northerly vineyard in the UK, though there are some
>>>> even further north in Europe.
>>>>
>>>> http://osm.org/way/232552850
>>>> http://osm.org/relation/13811337
>>>>
>>>> Happy mapping.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> *Paul*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 18:29, Clifford Snow <clifford at snowandsnow.us>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just watched a CBS 60 Minutes show on the impacts of Climate Change
>>>>> on wine growing. It's killing parts of France but opening areas in England
>>>>> to produce some of top rated sparkling wines. Check out
>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/60-minutes/ - then when you're done - go out
>>>>> and map some vineyards :-) They mentioned Kent and one other location which
>>>>> I didn't pickup on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clifford
>>>>>
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