[Talk-GB] Fixing non-closed polygons in the United Kingdom

[Andy Townsend]

Hello Courtney (and Marjan, and anyone else behind "osm at tomtom.com", and 
talk-gb),

Previously (see email trail below) I asked Marjan to update 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/TomTom#Editing_Projects 
to include the places where you are also running projects that are not 
yet listed on that page.  This isn't optional - see 
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines .

Please update that page immediately, before any further map edits.  
Quite a lot of what you need to say can already be found at 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2022-February/028589.html 
and the link from there.

Best Regards,

Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.


On 17/02/2022 22:47, TomTom OSM wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> It’s Courtney speaking, I work with Marjan at TomTom.
>
> Thank you again for your thoughtful comments and questions. And thank 
> you to the community for already working 100% of the challenge! !
>
> We initiated an inquiry into the quality of the leads and learned that 
> the percentage of "already fixed,” which was 62%, is misleading. Due 
> to an internal process, our QA system marks some tasks as "already 
> fixed" when really they are simply "fixed."  I asked our analyst to 
> filter the data on this challenge for a more accurate number of 
> "already fixed," and he told me that  it is 20%.
>
> Then, I asked him why 20% were "already fixed."  He said, "Why? 
> Because OSM map is living its own life!"  I quote this because I hope 
> it shows that he, too, cares about the map. As you know, in an active 
> community such as yours, some issues (like polygons) will be solved 
> very quickly. So, if we post challenge, some few of those leads will 
> not be fresh after even just a weekend.
>
> I hope it is ok that I took some time to reflect on this in detail.
>
> Now, I have a question for you. Since the Great Britain community 
> worked the challenge so quickly, it makes me wonder, would you want 
> another one? We do have one for geometry that I happen to know is 
> recently quality checked, since I was asking our analyst a lot of 
> annoying quality-related questions this week.
>
> I will reach out in a few days to see if you have more comments or to 
> share another challenge if you are interested.
>
>
> Courtney
>
> *From: *Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 2:28 PM
> *To: *TomTom OSM <OSM at tomtom.com>, talk-gb at openstreetmap.org 
> <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing non-closed polygons in the United Kingdom
>
> On 10/02/2022 18:18, TomTom OSM wrote:
>
>     Regarding this remark:
>
>     > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/TomTom
>     <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FOrganised_Editing%2FActivities%2FTomTom&data=04%7C01%7COSM%40tomtom.com%7Cb68c7b7f352c44112c0808d9eccb629e%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637801181250989725%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=mzX92IJUIz7Ia9UjE%2Byde2F%2FBgzveX6KJvqDFuYOJ%2B0%3D&reserved=0>
>     > seems not to mention either UK or GB?  It would help to update
>     that first
>
>     We will add the project to our wiki page once we start editing,
>     which will be at least two weeks after this announcement, as per
>     the Organised Editing guidelines.
>
> Oh come on - https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/25103 
> <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmaproulette.org%2Fbrowse%2Fchallenges%2F25103&data=04%7C01%7COSM%40tomtom.com%7Cb68c7b7f352c44112c0808d9eccb629e%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637801181250989725%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=yQvVea6KjP51TPtZKgqSZ%2BRUIo45IIOoPd2Z%2B3MZVmI%3D&reserved=0> 
> is already up, you've talked about it on this list and people are 
> already fixing issues identified there!  If that isn't "organising 
> editing" I don't know what is...
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
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