[Talk-GB] Mass removal of building=hall_of_residence

[SK53]

This whole thing highlights that there is a huge range of student
accommodation for which the building=dormitory tag is inadequate.

At present we have the following obvious types of PBSA (purpose-built
student accommodation):

* Traditional halls of residence incorporating study bedrooms & a range of
other facilities. Often built to high standards and situated in parkland.
* Collegiate academic buildings, mixing study-bedrooms with service,
academic & leisure facilities. Not just Oxbridge, but also Lancaster, York
and UKC at Canterbury.
* Some long-standing London halls of residence which more conform to the
dormitory idea. Large blocks of study bedrooms with few on-site facilities,
and no outdoor ones. (Max Rayne, UCL?)
* Large complexes of student flats (a few on campus), but mainly
off-campus, often described as "student villages". Some date from th e '70s
(Broadgate at Nottingham, Lafrowda at Exeter). Seem to have gone out of
favour in recent years. Most are flats shared between a number of students
with a common kitchen. I have used landuse=residential with
residential=student_vilage for these. They are usually gated and hard to
survey and may house several thousand students. There are at least 6 in
Nottingham.
* Purpose built blocks of student flats: often with spaces bigger than
study bedrooms. I use building=apartments for these, but these are built to
lower standards than regular flats, so some kind of sub-tag is needed.
These range from monolithic monsters of 700 bedrooms to small infill
blocks, with a much smaller number. . The former seem to be built instead
of student villages these days.
* A few universities, largely agricultural schools and remote campuses did
offer "hostels" which are they things I see as most conforming to the
building=dormitory tag, but I think most of these have gone, as they were a
bit too bleak for the modern student. Nurses' homes have also more-or-less
disappeared from hospital sites (there was a tower block at the Hull RI).
Former teacher training colleges probably had a fair bit of this sort of
student housing too, particularly the more rural ones, but these are now
either campus universities or have disappeared.

In addition there's lots of different kinds of buildings converted to large
scale student apartments:

* Converted office blocks in town centres (Not quite PBSA). Very common in
Nottingham, I think, including one of Andy's former offices.
* Industrial buildings (old mills, maltings etc).

There is also the issue of adding residential landuse around on campus
halls, which I think gives a rather misleading slant to the landscape and
actual landuse as
 typically these are multi-purpose buildings often in parkland. They rarely
reflect typical things one might infer about landuse=residential: surface
sealing,
car parking, demand for utilities and services, etc. At the very least this
needs some kind of subtagging.

Adapted buildings are common elsewhere in the world: lots of students live
in old buildings in the centre of Caceres, Spain. I'm also not sure how
folk in the US tag frat houses.

Current terminology of PBSA is a bit unwieldy as an OSM tag, but it is more
accurate. Perhaps useful to subtag things.

Jerry

PS. Most of my current ground-survey mapping is tracking PBSA construction



On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 09:46, Nathan Case <nathancase at outlook.com> wrote:

> Another tagging scheme for university halls of residence I've seen (and
> used) is ``building=residential + residential=university``.
>
> I do like this approach as the building value should describe the
> building type rather than its use. Though perhaps halls of residence do
> differ from normal apartments as they generally share a communal kitchen
> (and sometimes communal bathrooms).
>
> Agree this should have all been discussed more widely before large scale
> changes were made to existing tags.
>
> On 06/02/2023 23:25, David Woolley wrote:
> > On 06/02/2023 21:38, nathuary via Talk-GB wrote:
> >> They were likely just following the suggestion of the
> >> building=dormitory page, which suggests building=hall_of_residence as
> >> a possible tagging mistake since this
> >> revisionhttps://
> wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:building%3Ddormitory&oldid=2427402
> .
> >
> > This also seems to suggest changing amenity to building, when I
> > thought these were intended to be orthogonal.
> >
> > Actually, thinking about, it some of the privately run UK student
> > accommodation might be better described as building=apartments!
> >
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