[Talk-GB] TfL Cycle Infrastructure Database (CID) conflation
Steven Hirschorn
steven.hirschorn at gmail.com
Fri Jan 6 13:25:37 UTC 2023
In my example it wasn't even bike parking attached to buildings, it was
speed humps!
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023, 13:21 Robert Skedgell, <rob at hubris.org.uk> wrote:
> I've added an issue to the git repository about conflated nodes being
> attached to buildings. Apart from wall-mounted cycle parking, I can't
> thing of any other circumstances in which this would be correct.
>
> https://github.com/cyclestreets/tflcid-conversion/issues/48
>
> On 06/01/2023 10:40, Ken Kilfedder wrote:
> > For completeness - I commented on this cs too, but have no response as
> yet.
> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130428687
> > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130428687>
> >
> > ---
> > https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain
> > <https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain>
> > spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk <mailto:spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk>
> >
> > On Fri, 6 Jan 2023, at 10:30 AM, Steven Hirschorn wrote:
> >> Here's my changeset comment, along with an explanation of the
> >> circumstances that may have contributed (I realigned roads and
> >> buildings with the Cadastral layer a few days earlier and wonder if
> >> the CID import is working on cached data?)
> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130291657
> >> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130291657>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 10:25, Steven Hirschorn
> >> <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com <mailto:steven.hirschorn at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've also commented on a changeset that merged speedhumps into
> >> building outlines and introduced kinks in roads. See this one, for
> >> example:
> >>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130253893#map=15/51.4972/-0.2896 <
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130253893#map=15/51.4972/-0.2896>
> >> (I actually put the comment on a different nearby TfL CID
> >> changeset accidentally, but then linked to this one in a comment)
> >>
> >> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 10:11, Ken Kilfedder
> >> <spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk <mailto:spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Could I please appeal for the TFL Cycle Infrastructure edits
> >> to be paused or halted? There have been some problems in the
> >> Beckon / Plaistow area, with duplicated or misplaced speed
> >> bumps. I've fixed a few by hand, but it would be best if
> >> those responsible had another look at their process.
> >>
> >> See this node for example -
> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561565
> >> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561565> . The
> >> streets in the area are now all very zig-zagged, and this is
> >> incorrect.
> >>
> >> Zoom in here to see the general pattern -
> >> https://osmcha.org/changesets/130428777/
> >> <https://osmcha.org/changesets/130428777/>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain
> >> <https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain>
> >> spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk <mailto:spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk
> >
> >>
> >> On Wed, 7 Dec 2022, at 5:48 PM, Aidan Mcinerney via Talk-GB
> wrote:
> >> > Steven - sorry!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Aidan Mcinerney via Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> >> <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 5:43 PM
> >> > To: Steven Hirschorn <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:steven.hirschorn at gmail.com>>
> >> > Cc: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> >> <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> >> <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] TfL Cycle Infrastructure Database
> >> (CID) conflation
> >> >
> >> > Hi Stephen - Thank you for the encouragement and input
> >> >
> >> > Very much take your point about the size of the humps
> >> changeset needing
> >> > to be manageable. It feels like there's a balance we need to
> >> find with
> >> > the size of each changeset vs the number assets we're aiming
> >> to bring
> >> > in - around 26k humps. The position we reached was to
> >> restrict each
> >> > changeset to a max of 350 and kept in a fairly tightly
> >> constrained
> >> > zone. It sounds like reducing this max size is advisable.
> >> >
> >> > You'll now see that the humps changeset has been reverted.
> >> Another user
> >> > (BCNorwich - thank you!) pointed out our method had caused
> >> duplication
> >> > in instances where we have attempted to revise tags on
> >> existing assets,
> >> > so we've reverted this changeset entirely to avoid disruption.
> >> >
> >> > We'll regroup quickly to revise this method and post again
> >> to here and
> >> > the Wiki tomorrow.
> >> >
> >> > Many thanks,
> >> > Aidan
> >> >
> >> > From: Steven Hirschorn <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:steven.hirschorn at gmail.com>>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 10:59 PM
> >> > To: Aidan Mcinerney <Aidan.Mcinerney at ghd.com
> >> <mailto:Aidan.Mcinerney at ghd.com>>
> >> > Cc: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> >> <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> >> <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] TfL Cycle Infrastructure Database
> >> (CID) conflation
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > You don't often get email from steven.hirschorn at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:steven.hirschorn at gmail.com>. Learn why
> >> > this is important
> >> >
> >> > Hi Aidan,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your efforts, I think it'll be a great addition.
> >> I've looked
> >> > at a sample of the bike parking and haven't found any issues
> >> - neither
> >> > false positives or inaccurate positions. I didn't look for
> >> any modified
> >> > existing nodes. I've noticed that it isn't exhaustive (the
> >> first few
> >> > nodes in the changeset were of Golden Square but there are
> some
> >> > post_hoops missing), but doesn't claim to be.
> >> >
> >> > With the traffic calming measures, I found an example of
> >> cushions
> >> > listed as a hump - I don't know if that's a problem in the
> >> original
> >> > source data, or maybe it's changed since the survey or since
> >> the aerial
> >> > view on Bing was recorded? I still feel like the distinction
> >> isn't that
> >> > important and that it's useful to know that there's some
> >> kind of
> >> > traffic calming there even if the type is incorrect.
> >> >
> >>
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fnode%2F10242246942&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XBLqHNeM9ODbIbroFx947%2BOi%2FyYzZmY6pzH2XOWCzKc%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fnode%2F10242246942&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XBLqHNeM9ODbIbroFx947%2BOi%2FyYzZmY6pzH2XOWCzKc%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >> >
> >> > I'm finding the bigger changeset difficult to analyse as
> >> JOSM doesn't
> >> > make it obvious what has changed, and it's too big to open
> >> in osmcha
> >> > (and there's 18 pages of updates to look at via the
> >> openstreetmap.org <http://openstreetmap.org>
> >> > representation!
> >> >
> >> > Steven
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 at 12:41, Aidan Mcinerney via Talk-GB
> >> > <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> >> <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > As discussed, we have now imported two example changesets
> >> for review
> >> >
> >> > - 44 cycle parking assets from TfL CID inside London ward(s)
> >> St.
> >> > James's,West End #tflcid
> >> >
> >>
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780786&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=E23%2Frw4vKSg0z7FjAQPf2jLELFrnKP62tuxw%2BVn0I80%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780786&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=E23%2Frw4vKSg0z7FjAQPf2jLELFrnKP62tuxw%2BVn0I80%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >> >
> >> > - 350 traffic calming assets (humps/cushions) of TfL CID
> >> within London
> >> > borough Barking and Dagenham #tflcid
> >> >
> >>
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780689%23map%3D12%2F51.5530%2F0.1279&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=bBw1oGo312cOGlUG%2FpJ49awq5v6HcfgPEoWuE%2BG%2BrLM%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780689%23map%3D12%2F51.5530%2F0.1279&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=bBw1oGo312cOGlUG%2FpJ49awq5v6HcfgPEoWuE%2BG%2BrLM%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >> >
> >> > This is aligned to the method proposed, but we would be
> >> grateful if you
> >> > are able to advise if there is anything unexpected. All
> >> being well, we
> >> > would look to add a few more changesets for these two assets
> >> in 7 days.
> >> >
> >> > Many thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Aidan, Lu, Ed
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Aidan Mcinerney via Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> >> <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>>
> >> > Date: Tuesday, 15 November 2022 at 11:03
> >> > To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> >> <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> >> <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>>
> >> > Subject: [Talk-GB] TfL Cycle Infrastructure Database (CID)
> >> conflation
> >> > Hello
> >> >
> >> > Following very helpful feedback earlier in the year, we are
> >> now looking
> >> > to recommence efforts to complete the migration of the TfL
> >> CID to OSM
> >> >
> >> > In the intervening months, we have been assisted by
> >> CycleStreets in
> >> > closing out identified issues with the conversion scripts -
> >> >
> >>
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcyclestreets%2Ftflcid-conversion%2Fissues&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Y4BYlkXVfxV1zna7K3CvFzJWrsi8DqCfrIFJJwRmgag%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcyclestreets%2Ftflcid-conversion%2Fissues&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Y4BYlkXVfxV1zna7K3CvFzJWrsi8DqCfrIFJJwRmgag%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >> >
> >> > We have reviewed and modified the import process to avoid
> >> > editing/importing using out of date info.
> >> > The details of this modification for two initial assets
> >> (parking and
> >> > speed bumps) are outlined here -
> >> >
> >>
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FTfL_Cycling_Infrastructure_Database%23Modification_to_Process_%2528November_2022%2529&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Mtz9dIOx7VpYm8lnxim3Xg%2F6BoL%2BHNi3TVlXLfK1b%2Bk%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FTfL_Cycling_Infrastructure_Database%23Modification_to_Process_%2528November_2022%2529&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Mtz9dIOx7VpYm8lnxim3Xg%2F6BoL%2BHNi3TVlXLfK1b%2Bk%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >> >
> >> > Hopefuly this is all clear – but please ask questions if
> >> not. Should
> >> > the community consensus be to proceed with this approach, we
> >> propose
> >> > importing both assets for a single ward next week, allow
> >> time (a week?)
> >> > for review, before ramping up to a few more wards the
> >> following week.
> >> > We’re happy to be guided by the pace that community members
> >> feel
> >> > appropriate as we go.
> >> >
> >> > We’re very grateful to receive your questions and comments!
> >> >
> >> > Lu (GHD), Ed (Sweco) and Aidan (GHD)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including any
> >> attachments, is
> >> > confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the
> intended
> >> > recipient please notify the sender immediately, and please
> >> delete it;
> >> > you should not copy it or use it for any purpose or disclose
> >> its
> >> > contents to any other person. GHD and its affiliates reserve
> >> the right
> >> > to monitor and modify all email communications through their
> >> networks.
> >> > _____________________
> >> > This email is issued by a GHD group company. GHD is a
> >> trading name of
> >> > the Gutteridge Haskins & Davey group of companies, which
> >> includes the
> >> > following companies (with their respective company numbers):
> >> Gutteridge
> >> > Haskins & Davey Limited (05528602); GHD Environment Limited
> >> (05221559);
> >> > GHD Livigunn Limited (05661240); Movement Strategies Limited
> >> > (04925854); Birkett Stevens Colman Partnership Limited
> >> (02585136);
> >> > George Hutchison Associates Limited (02174512); and
> >> Livingston Gunn
> >> > Projects Limited (02399356), all of which have their
> >> registered offices
> >> > at: Level 1, Building 49, Thornton Science Park, Pool Lane,
> >> Ince,
> >> > Chester, CH2 4NU, United Kingdom and all of which are
> >> registered in
> >> > England and Wales.
> >> > _____________________
> >> > This email is issued by a GHD group company. GHD is a
> >> trading name of
> >> > the Gutteridge Haskins & Davey group of companies, which
> >> includes the
> >> > following companies (with their respective company numbers):
> >> Gutteridge
> >> > Haskins & Davey Limited (05528602); GHD Environment Limited
> >> (05221559);
> >> > GHD Livigunn Limited (05661240); Movement Strategies Limited
> >> > (04925854); Birkett Stevens Colman Partnership Limited
> >> (02585136);
> >> > George Hutchison Associates Limited (02174512); and
> >> Livingston Gunn
> >> > Projects Limited (02399356), all of which have their
> >> registered offices
> >> > at: Level 1, Building 49, Thornton Science Park, Pool Lane,
> >> Ince,
> >> > Chester, CH2 4NU, United Kingdom and all of which are
> >> registered in
> >> > England and Wales.
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Talk-GB mailing list
> >> > Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org>
> >> >
> >>
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.openstreetmap.org%2Flistinfo%2Ftalk-gb&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KX9hgfKwgV7M1iWptqKX94ZVGeUTlBDLyHWhZdVlSk0%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.openstreetmap.org%2Flistinfo%2Ftalk-gb&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KX9hgfKwgV7M1iWptqKX94ZVGeUTlBDLyHWhZdVlSk0%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >> > _____________________
> >> > This email is issued by a GHD group company. GHD is a
> >> trading name of
> >> > the Gutteridge Haskins & Davey group of companies, which
> >> includes the
> >> > following companies (with their respective company numbers):
> >> Gutteridge
> >> > Haskins & Davey Limited (05528602); GHD Environment Limited
> >> (05221559);
> >> > GHD Livigunn Limited (05661240); Movement Strategies Limited
> >> > (04925854); Birkett Stevens Colman Partnership Limited
> >> (02585136);
> >> > George Hutchison Associates Limited (02174512); and
> >> Livingston Gunn
> >> > Projects Limited (02399356), all of which have their
> >> registered offices
> >> > at: Level 1, Building 49, Thornton Science Park, Pool Lane,
> >> Ince,
> >> > Chester, CH2 4NU, United Kingdom and all of which are
> >> registered in
> >> > England and Wales.
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Talk-GB mailing list
> >> > Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org>
> >> >
> >>
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.openstreetmap.org%2Flistinfo%2Ftalk-gb&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KX9hgfKwgV7M1iWptqKX94ZVGeUTlBDLyHWhZdVlSk0%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.openstreetmap.org%2Flistinfo%2Ftalk-gb&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KX9hgfKwgV7M1iWptqKX94ZVGeUTlBDLyHWhZdVlSk0%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >> > _____________________
> >> > This email is issued by a GHD group company. GHD is a
> >> trading name of
> >> > the Gutteridge Haskins & Davey group of companies, which
> >> includes the
> >> > following companies (with their respective company numbers):
> >> Gutteridge
> >> > Haskins & Davey Limited (05528602); GHD Environment Limited
> >> (05221559);
> >> > GHD Livigunn Limited (05661240); Movement Strategies Limited
> >> > (04925854); Birkett Stevens Colman Partnership Limited
> >> (02585136);
> >> > George Hutchison Associates Limited (02174512); and
> >> Livingston Gunn
> >> > Projects Limited (02399356), all of which have their
> >> registered offices
> >> > at: Level 1, Building 49, Thornton Science Park, Pool Lane,
> >> Ince,
> >> > Chester, CH2 4NU, United Kingdom and all of which are
> >> registered in
> >> > England and Wales.
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Talk-GB mailing list
> >> > Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org>
> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
> >> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Talk-GB mailing list
> > Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Talk-GB mailing list
> Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/attachments/20230106/2b5d5187/attachment-0001.htm>
More information about the Talk-GB
mailing list