[Talk-GB] Green Cabmen's Shelters in London

Kai Michael Poppe osm at poppe.dev
Tue Feb 6 11:14:16 UTC 2024


Hi all,

by chance I stumbled upon Roblondon's video [1] about the thirteen 
remaining cabmen's shelters in London that all have been Grade II listed 
- some of them are in use as kiosks or cafe, some seem not to be open 
anymore, yet they remain under the supervision of the Cabmen's Shelter 
Fund [2].

Due to highly inconsistent tagging, it wasn't easy to find them in OSM, 
but alas, here they are: [3]

I'd love to make the tagging more consistent, so a few points I'd like 
to discuss:

* If I understand the building-tag correctly (tagging what the building 
was initially designed to be, regardless of it's current use), 
building=shelter should be superior to retail, kiosk, hut or yes 
*shudders* - correct?
* There are 2 cafés that are mapped as nodes on top of buildings and 3 
as amenity=cafe (1 shop=kiosk) on the buildings' way. Should this be 
changed (all seperate nodes or all tagging on the ways)?
* 8 shelters have a wikidata-tag, yet there are more entries in WD that 
refer to these shelters, so I would need to figure the missing ones out 
and add them. As far as I've seen, the NHLE Identifier seems to exist in 
WD as well, linking to the correct entries. Is there any point in adding 
them to OSM as ref:GB:nhle or would that be data duplication we do not 
need? Likewise for listed_status=Grade II and operator:heritage=Heritage 
England?

Thoughts?

K

[1] https://youtu.be/Nsoxj9U71rQ
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabmen%27s_Shelter_Fund
[3] https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1GYj




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