[Talk-GB] Green Cabmen's Shelters in London

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Tue Feb 6 11:42:20 UTC 2024


That sounds like case of
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories


Feb 6, 2024, 12:40 by pmberry2007 at gmail.com:

> Hi,
>
> Whichever way you end up tagging them, it would be useful to collect them together under a simple site relation. That way they can easily be found and you may be able to move general tagging to the relation level instead of duplicating it at the member level.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 11:20, Kai Michael Poppe <> osm at poppe.dev> > wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>  
>>  by chance I stumbled upon Roblondon's video [1] about the thirteen 
>>  remaining cabmen's shelters in London that all have been Grade II listed 
>>  - some of them are in use as kiosks or cafe, some seem not to be open 
>>  anymore, yet they remain under the supervision of the Cabmen's Shelter 
>>  Fund [2].
>>  
>>  Due to highly inconsistent tagging, it wasn't easy to find them in OSM, 
>>  but alas, here they are: [3]
>>  
>>  I'd love to make the tagging more consistent, so a few points I'd like 
>>  to discuss:
>>  
>>  * If I understand the building-tag correctly (tagging what the building 
>>  was initially designed to be, regardless of it's current use), 
>>  building=shelter should be superior to retail, kiosk, hut or yes 
>>  *shudders* - correct?
>>  * There are 2 cafés that are mapped as nodes on top of buildings and 3 
>>  as amenity=cafe (1 shop=kiosk) on the buildings' way. Should this be 
>>  changed (all seperate nodes or all tagging on the ways)?
>>  * 8 shelters have a wikidata-tag, yet there are more entries in WD that 
>>  refer to these shelters, so I would need to figure the missing ones out 
>>  and add them. As far as I've seen, the NHLE Identifier seems to exist in 
>>  WD as well, linking to the correct entries. Is there any point in adding 
>>  them to OSM as ref:GB:nhle or would that be data duplication we do not 
>>  need? Likewise for listed_status=Grade II and operator:heritage=Heritage 
>>  England?
>>  
>>  Thoughts?
>>  
>>  K
>>  
>>  [1] >> https://youtu.be/Nsoxj9U71rQ
>>  [2] >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabmen%27s_Shelter_Fund
>>  [3] >> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1GYj
>>  
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