[Talk-GB] Green Cabmen's Shelters in London

[Kai Michael Poppe]

I will refrain from using a relation but MY GOSH is that wall of text 
hard to read. I might take some time to bring some structure into that 
page. Thanks for pointing that out (even if it wasn't your intention :-))

K

On 06.02.2024 12:42, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote:
> That sounds like case of
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories
>
>
> Feb 6, 2024, 12:40 by pmberry2007 at gmail.com:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     Whichever way you end up tagging them, it would be useful to
>     collect them together under a simple site relation. That way they
>     can easily be found and you may be able to move general tagging to
>     the relation level instead of duplicating it at the member level.
>
>     Regards,
>     /Paul/
>
>     On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 11:20, Kai Michael Poppe <osm at poppe.dev> wrote:
>
>         Hi all,
>
>         by chance I stumbled upon Roblondon's video [1] about the
>         thirteen
>         remaining cabmen's shelters in London that all have been Grade
>         II listed
>         - some of them are in use as kiosks or cafe, some seem not to
>         be open
>         anymore, yet they remain under the supervision of the Cabmen's
>         Shelter
>         Fund [2].
>
>         Due to highly inconsistent tagging, it wasn't easy to find
>         them in OSM,
>         but alas, here they are: [3]
>
>         I'd love to make the tagging more consistent, so a few points
>         I'd like
>         to discuss:
>
>         * If I understand the building-tag correctly (tagging what the
>         building
>         was initially designed to be, regardless of it's current use),
>         building=shelter should be superior to retail, kiosk, hut or yes
>         *shudders* - correct?
>         * There are 2 cafés that are mapped as nodes on top of
>         buildings and 3
>         as amenity=cafe (1 shop=kiosk) on the buildings' way. Should
>         this be
>         changed (all seperate nodes or all tagging on the ways)?
>         * 8 shelters have a wikidata-tag, yet there are more entries
>         in WD that
>         refer to these shelters, so I would need to figure the missing
>         ones out
>         and add them. As far as I've seen, the NHLE Identifier seems
>         to exist in
>         WD as well, linking to the correct entries. Is there any point
>         in adding
>         them to OSM as ref:GB:nhle or would that be data duplication
>         we do not
>         need? Likewise for listed_status=Grade II and
>         operator:heritage=Heritage
>         England?
>
>         Thoughts?
>
>         K
>
>         [1] https://youtu.be/Nsoxj9U71rQ
>         [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabmen%27s_Shelter_Fund
>         [3] https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1GYj
>
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