[Talk-GB] Green Cabmen's Shelters in London

[Jez Nicholson]

My brother-in-law is a London cabbie. He says, "Only cab drivers can go
inside the shelter, but they have a serving hatch for the public to get
takeaways from, hope that helps."

On Tue, 6 Feb 2024, 18:59 Kai Michael Poppe, <osm at poppe.dev> wrote:

> I will refrain from using a relation but MY GOSH is that wall of text hard
> to read. I might take some time to bring some structure into that page.
> Thanks for pointing that out (even if it wasn't your intention :-))
>
> K
> On 06.02.2024 12:42, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote:
>
> That sounds like case of
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories
>
>
> Feb 6, 2024, 12:40 by pmberry2007 at gmail.com:
>
> Hi,
>
> Whichever way you end up tagging them, it would be useful to collect them
> together under a simple site relation. That way they can easily be found
> and you may be able to move general tagging to the relation level instead
> of duplicating it at the member level.
>
> Regards,
> *Paul*
>
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 11:20, Kai Michael Poppe <osm at poppe.dev> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> by chance I stumbled upon Roblondon's video [1] about the thirteen
> remaining cabmen's shelters in London that all have been Grade II listed
> - some of them are in use as kiosks or cafe, some seem not to be open
> anymore, yet they remain under the supervision of the Cabmen's Shelter
> Fund [2].
>
> Due to highly inconsistent tagging, it wasn't easy to find them in OSM,
> but alas, here they are: [3]
>
> I'd love to make the tagging more consistent, so a few points I'd like
> to discuss:
>
> * If I understand the building-tag correctly (tagging what the building
> was initially designed to be, regardless of it's current use),
> building=shelter should be superior to retail, kiosk, hut or yes
> *shudders* - correct?
> * There are 2 cafés that are mapped as nodes on top of buildings and 3
> as amenity=cafe (1 shop=kiosk) on the buildings' way. Should this be
> changed (all seperate nodes or all tagging on the ways)?
> * 8 shelters have a wikidata-tag, yet there are more entries in WD that
> refer to these shelters, so I would need to figure the missing ones out
> and add them. As far as I've seen, the NHLE Identifier seems to exist in
> WD as well, linking to the correct entries. Is there any point in adding
> them to OSM as ref:GB:nhle or would that be data duplication we do not
> need? Likewise for listed_status=Grade II and operator:heritage=Heritage
> England?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> K
>
> [1] https://youtu.be/Nsoxj9U71rQ
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabmen%27s_Shelter_Fund
> [3] https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1GYj
>
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