[Talk-ht] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities Master List]]

Tue Feb 2 10:05:40 GMT 2010

Jean Guilhem and all.

Just got back on-line: all the people who worked on the Health Facility
themes want this thematic layer in osm as compehrensive in the most timely
manner both:
- (i) in terms of coverage of geo features: this is addressed by the data
conflation work Kate Chapman and others including Sahan, US Health Govt, WHO
and WHO-PAHO were involved in and which lead to this release by David.
Kate was working on a conflation of this superset with OSM and I think we
have to wait on her updating us on the status of the work to act
collectively in an efficient manner. She'll be up soon (living in US Est
Time).
- (ii) in terms of semantic interoperability: this is being addressed
through the data modeling and coordination work I an running on  this Health
object with Kate Chapman, David Smith, Andrew Turner, WHO experts and
Emergency coordinators, GIS Coordinators from GIS-NGOs deployed on the
ground. I'll be integrating this last set of attributes elements from PAHO
to the data model and issue a new version available on the wiki at
URL
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29

This has to be seen as the formulation of field requirements for health
facility geodata management in the perspective of OSM being closely tied to
this new phase of the humanitarian response with more contents generated and
shared from on the ground experts.
Sahana through the portal shared by David allows for online data entry by
Field Health practitioners.
Kate ensured a way to refresh OSM attributes with this field contributed
contents.
On top of that WHO and PAHO are considering using directly OSM Editors to
manage this data and relay on OSM DB for this operation at the condition of
relying on interoperable HFacs tags.
This is not small stuff and to allow this to happen again shortly, let's
wait for Kate to give us a status of her work and once the attributes
contents are on the wiki let's look at our tagging for this Health Fac layer
which should not be too difficult since the OSM MapFeatures coverage of
Health Care-related objects is limited.
URL
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhospital

Hope this helps
Best
N

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>wrote:

>  Nicolas,
>
> Can't we rely on healthC_ID for later incorporation of other tags (which
> are mostly empty for now) ?
>

>
> Isn't it a kind of emergency in itself to have the points, with precise
> location, name, and unambiguous ID in the OSM data base ? For use on the
> ground ?
>
>
> "Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to incorporate this
> identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data between groups."
>
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
> -------- Message original --------  Sujet : Re: [Talk-ht] [Fwd:
> [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health Facilities Master List]  Date : Tue, 2 Feb
> 2010 09:33:09 +0100  De : nicolas chavent <nicolas.chavent at gmail.com><nicolas.chavent at gmail.com>  Pour :
> Talk-ht at openstreetmap.org  Copie à :
> Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com> <jgc at arkemie.com>  Références :
> <4B67DF87.1000707 at arkemie.com> <4B67DF87.1000707 at arkemie.com>
>
>
> Hi there
>
> Thanks Jean Guilhem for forwarding this post on this fundamental asset,
> before embarking into any bulk upload and exposing ourselves to double risk
> of duplication and data losses , we shall hear back from Kate Chapman who
> had been involved in the work of the group making this resource available
> and on conflating it with the OSM data base.
>
> We shall also look at the semantic aspect of this conflation work and make
> sure the tags we will be setting for the HFacs description besides the
> Unifying Unique ID set by the Ministère de la Santé Publique et de la
> Population (MSPP) are interoperable with the ones used in the World Health
> Organization (Geneva) and PAHO (Pan American World Health Organization).
> Since both organizations are envisaging to use the osm platform to manage
> this Health Facility layer at the condition of relying on interoperable
> tags.
>
> I'll be reverting to the group soon with the "final" list of proposed
> values, a first unfortunately incomplete set is readable on the HT wiki
> URL
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Humanitarian_Data_Model_1.6_.28these_will_be_mapped_to_OSM_tagging.29
>
> Later then
> Best to all
> N.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Could someone help automatically importing this list into OSM ?
>> (At least X, Y, name, healthC_ID, for 1267 points)
>>
>> I could help to do some cleaning up with the points that might already be
>> present in OSM.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem
>> (knowing JOSM, but no automatic import tool (yet ?))
>> (jgc on irc #osm, #flossk)
>>
>>
>> -------- Message original --------  Sujet : [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health
>> Facilities Master List  Date : Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:02:43 -0600  De : David
>> William Bitner <bitner at dbspatial.com> <bitner at dbspatial.com>  Répondre
>> à : crisismappers at googlegroups.com  Pour : crisismappers at googlegroups.com
>>
>> The Haiti Health Facilities master list has now been made publicly
>> available at
>> http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/.  This
>> represents a combination of many efforts over the past two weeks.
>>
>>  Of particular note is the unique identifier HealthC_ID which is based on
>> the Ministère de la Santé Publique et de la Population (MSPP) of Haiti
>> identifiers expanded to allow for temporary and transient health facilities.
>>  Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to incorporate this
>> identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data between groups.
>> This dataset is owned by the MSPP and is being maintained by WHO/PAHO and
>> the website allows for submitting corrections and additions to keep the
>> dataset up to date.
>>
>>  David
>> Sahana Software Foundation
>>
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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Could someone help automatically importing this list into OSM ?
>> (At least X, Y, name, healthC_ID, for 1267 points)
>>
>> I could help to do some cleaning up with the points that might already be
>> present in OSM.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem
>> (knowing JOSM, but no automatic import tool (yet ?))
>> (jgc on irc #osm, #flossk)
>>
>>
>> -------- Message original --------  Sujet : [CrisisMappers] Haiti Health
>> Facilities Master List  Date : Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:02:43 -0600  De : David
>> William Bitner <bitner at dbspatial.com> <bitner at dbspatial.com>  Répondre
>> à : crisismappers at googlegroups.com  Pour : crisismappers at googlegroups.com
>>
>> The Haiti Health Facilities master list has now been made publicly
>> available at
>> http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/.  This
>> represents a combination of many efforts over the past two weeks.
>>
>>  Of particular note is the unique identifier HealthC_ID which is based on
>> the Ministère de la Santé Publique et de la Population (MSPP) of Haiti
>> identifiers expanded to allow for temporary and transient health facilities.
>>  Any groups tracking health facilities should make sure to incorporate this
>> identifier to enable unambiguous sharing/merging of data between groups.
>> This dataset is owned by the MSPP and is being maintained by WHO/PAHO and
>> the website allows for submitting corrections and additions to keep the
>> dataset up to date.
>>
>>  David
>> Sahana Software Foundation
>>
>> --
>> ************************************
>> David William Bitner
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Email: nicolas.chavent at gmail.com
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