[Talk-hu] Entrance signs - ref, addr:flats, ref:signed=no tags

Feri Veres lion at cmsbazar.hu
2022. Jún. 29., Sze, 10:02:30 UTC


Hi Mateusz,

Earlier I've mapped many big buildings as explained in this comment, but 
as I can see them on the map, they had the "staircase letter" as*part of 
their house number*. So no special addr:unit or other tag was needed. Or 
every normal entrance had their own house number. Examples:

New building: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1541562620

Old building: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1419165875 (I make such 
address nodes part of the building line.)

(The comment refers to both old and new - so in this area at Budapest 
these are not numbered as the comment explains. However I can imagine 
such house. In that case I would mark the building outline with the 
number (Address) and the entrances just *entrance=* + ref=* *maybe.)

Another city, same style: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6703947891

I have not seen such "range of flats" marked, as in original question. I 
didn't answer because I don't know if they exist anywhere in Hungary. 
*Then how could anybody say such houses do not exist?* :-) But if they 
are rare, I think this is not a good "question" in StreetComplete. I do 
not remember seeing or mapping such "rage of flats" ever.

Best regards,
Feri

2022. 06. 29. 9:16 keltezéssel, Mateusz Konieczny írta:
> interesting, based on
> https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3064#issuecomment-1159088130
> I enabled this quest in Hungary
>
> They mentioned staircase designators, so I enabled it.
>
> if this quest will turn out to be mistake here, then I will disable it.
>
> Is addr:unit tagged on entrance=staircase? Or on address nodes?
> Or on something else?
>
> 28 cze 2022, 12:29 od gabor.babos at gmail.com:
>
>     Hello Mateusz,
>
>     sorry for the late answer. Though I do not live in an area with
>     big block houses, as far as I know flat numbers are not written
>     outside on buildings in Hungary.
>
>     Staircases are often numbered and visible also from the street but
>     for them addr:unit
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr#Detailed_subkeys>
>     tags are used.
>
>     Maybe others with more experience will correct me.
>
>     Regards
>
>
>     /Gábor Babos/
>
>     Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com> ezt írta (időpont:
>     2022. jún. 16., Cs, 16:24):
>
>         Hello and sorry for writing in English. I am implementing
>         something in StreetComplete
>         and I want to ask is it something that should be enabled in
>         Hungary.
>
>         Is it typical that entrance in an apartment with multiple
>         entrance will have:
>
>         - signed range of flats, for example addr:flats=81-94 on
>         entrance to
>         staircase with flats 81 to 94
>         and/or
>         - ref=VI on entrance to staircase with code VI
>
>         Example from Poland:
>         https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.0202346,19.9033715,3a,42.4y,202.36h,95.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxM7gDCmkjQPWpvJaXWIG9A!2e0!5s20140601T000000!7i13312!8i6656
>
>         I am asking as I am unsure whether this quest should be
>         enabled in your area or not.
>
>         It would result in tagging ref or addr:flats or ref and
>         addr:flats or ref:signed=no
>         on entrances of building=apartments which have more than one
>         tagged
>         entrance=main or entrance=staircase
>
>         For reference, work on this is tracked in
>         https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3064
>
>         Pull requests is at
>         https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/pull/4066
>
>         It will be enabled in Poland, Bulgaria, Russia, Ukraine,
>         Belarus, Estonia.
>
>         It will be not enabled in Kosovo, Serbia, Lithuania, Slovakia
>         and Czech Republic
>         as such signs are not in use there.
>
>         If you have some feedback about StreetComplete - the best
>         place to report it is
>         https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues but
>         you can also ping me in this thread for next few days.
>
>
>
>
>
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