[Talk-hu] Entrance signs - ref, addr:flats, ref:signed=no tags

[Attila Kun]

Hi Mateusz & others,

As far as I know, yes, there are actually seperate "staircase letters".

I'm going to cite this article from 
https://masodikkerulet.hu/archiv/cimkezelesi-eljarassal-kapcsolatos-kozzetetel-2 
:

"The correct addressing would be this:

*1024 Budapest, Káplár utca 4-6. A épület, A, B, C, D lépcsőház, B 
épület A, B, C lépcsőház*

*1024 Budapest, Fillér utca 8-12. A, B, C, D lépcsőház"
*

Based upon this, yes this thing exists.
Based on that: 1024 Budapest, Káplár utca 4-6. A épület, A lépcsőház.
= 1024 Budapest, Káplár Street 4-6. Building A, Staircase A

But there are other examples as well. Like at Örs vezér tere (Fehér út), 
there is a big office building, which has two staircases: Staircase A 
and staircase B.

You would see such things like "Fehér út 1. B. lph.", lph is the 
abbreviation of lépcsőház (staircase)

Hopefully my explanation is useful.

BR,
Attila

On 2022. 06. 29. 12:02, Feri Veres wrote:
>
> Hi Mateusz,
>
> Earlier I've mapped many big buildings as explained in this comment, 
> but as I can see them on the map, they had the "staircase letter" 
> as*part of their house number*. So no special addr:unit or other tag 
> was needed. Or every normal entrance had their own house number. Examples:
>
> New building: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1541562620
>
> Old building: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1419165875 (I make 
> such address nodes part of the building line.)
>
> (The comment refers to both old and new - so in this area at Budapest 
> these are not numbered as the comment explains. However I can imagine 
> such house. In that case I would mark the building outline with the 
> number (Address) and the entrances just *entrance=* + ref=* *maybe.)
>
> Another city, same style: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6703947891
>
> I have not seen such "range of flats" marked, as in original question. 
> I didn't answer because I don't know if they exist anywhere in 
> Hungary. *Then how could anybody say such houses do not exist?* :-) 
> But if they are rare, I think this is not a good "question" in 
> StreetComplete. I do not remember seeing or mapping such "rage of 
> flats" ever.
>
> Best regards,
> Feri
>
> 2022. 06. 29. 9:16 keltezéssel, Mateusz Konieczny írta:
>> interesting, based on
>> https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3064#issuecomment-1159088130
>> I enabled this quest in Hungary
>>
>> They mentioned staircase designators, so I enabled it.
>>
>> if this quest will turn out to be mistake here, then I will disable it.
>>
>> Is addr:unit tagged on entrance=staircase? Or on address nodes?
>> Or on something else?
>>
>> 28 cze 2022, 12:29 od gabor.babos at gmail.com:
>>
>>     Hello Mateusz,
>>
>>     sorry for the late answer. Though I do not live in an area with
>>     big block houses, as far as I know flat numbers are not written
>>     outside on buildings in Hungary.
>>
>>     Staircases are often numbered and visible also from the street
>>     but for them addr:unit
>>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr#Detailed_subkeys>
>>     tags are used.
>>
>>     Maybe others with more experience will correct me.
>>
>>     Regards
>>
>>
>>     /Gábor Babos/
>>
>>     Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com> ezt írta (időpont:
>>     2022. jún. 16., Cs, 16:24):
>>
>>         Hello and sorry for writing in English. I am implementing
>>         something in StreetComplete
>>         and I want to ask is it something that should be enabled in
>>         Hungary.
>>
>>         Is it typical that entrance in an apartment with multiple
>>         entrance will have:
>>
>>         - signed range of flats, for example addr:flats=81-94 on
>>         entrance to
>>         staircase with flats 81 to 94
>>         and/or
>>         - ref=VI on entrance to staircase with code VI
>>
>>         Example from Poland:
>>         https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.0202346,19.9033715,3a,42.4y,202.36h,95.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxM7gDCmkjQPWpvJaXWIG9A!2e0!5s20140601T000000!7i13312!8i6656
>>
>>         I am asking as I am unsure whether this quest should be
>>         enabled in your area or not.
>>
>>         It would result in tagging ref or addr:flats or ref and
>>         addr:flats or ref:signed=no
>>         on entrances of building=apartments which have more than one
>>         tagged
>>         entrance=main or entrance=staircase
>>
>>         For reference, work on this is tracked in
>>         https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3064
>>
>>         Pull requests is at
>>         https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/pull/4066
>>
>>         It will be enabled in Poland, Bulgaria, Russia, Ukraine,
>>         Belarus, Estonia.
>>
>>         It will be not enabled in Kosovo, Serbia, Lithuania, Slovakia
>>         and Czech Republic
>>         as such signs are not in use there.
>>
>>         If you have some feedback about StreetComplete - the best
>>         place to report it is
>>         https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues but
>>         you can also ping me in this thread for next few days.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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