[Talk-in] Classifying places - cities, towns and villages

I Chengappa imchengappa at gmail.com
Sun May 13 09:38:42 BST 2012

Can you point me to the definition of a city in the MDDS designations
because I cannot find it?

Can we agree that if any such designation is changed from an existing one,
that the justification should be included. Again I would ask that you
consider using a tag. Census2011;town or similar, which would deal with all
such issues without a problem.

Also, I see that Mandya has a new tag/value of admin_level=5?

Thanks, indigomc

On 11 May 2012 06:22, Arun Ganesh <arun.planemad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Indigomc, let me recap, because we are going in circles:
> What should not be done is to divert a generally understood global
>> designation such as 'city' that already has the neutral population
>> definition.
> The so called global definition of a city on the osm wiki has been
> arbitrarily defined and has no basis or credibility.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dcity
> Especially to change it to correspond to a mixture of regional government
>> designations that may change.  Do people in Mandya believe that Cambridge
>> is more important than their 'town'?
> There will arise cases in future where a person from a village, may want
> his place to be marked as a town or a city because he feels its important.
> It is therefore important to have a clear definition which links official
> classification of the place to osm tags and is not ambiguous.
>> As to the suggestion that the government has an 'official system', please
>> document where this policy is stated and how it is being implemented.
> The census 2011 has an official and exhaustive list of populated places
> with the classification of the local governing body. It has also
> established a system of unique e-governance code for every place
> (urban+rural) which is now the standard for future e governance services.
> This is the best reference document available to date which records the
> nature and size of every place in the country.
>  http://censusindia.gov.in/2011census/MDDS_Directory.aspx
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDDS
>>  A standard used by the census and not used by the state governments or
>> in general usage is just that, of use for the census and nothing else.
>> The census is a collection of recorded facts, if it says Pune is a
> municipal corporation, then it is a municipal corporation. It is a central
> document which plays a vital role in the planning of essential services for
> the next ten years. I would rather have places classified according to the
> census, than an arbitrary definition of a mapper sitting in Europe who
> thinks that 100,000 is a good number for a place to be called a city.
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